This is forwarded with only one comment, which in the light of the gigantesque subject of removing the curse which is death is mere nitpicking. Some may find it confusing when Daniel writes of the right-brain as realist, and the left-brain as idealist.
Generally this is referred to the other way round. The right-brain handles the visionary, what i am doing now is being nit-picking, which is a very left-brain activity. As for realism or not....the leftbrain is very good at fixating on sensory input and building its reality from that....commonly referred to as realism....sometimes cynicism. But you know, the true realism is when we believe every Word that precedes out of the Mouth of God. How else are we going to be in the Temple , like Anna and Simeon, just at the right time to prophecy over Jesus God in the flesh, or how are we , as the shepherds did, ever going to make our way to the backstreet of beyond in the City of David to find a baby in a manger. Everyone else just misses it...in their gospel of cynicism. But who celebrates the powers at be in Jerusalem now, and who celebrates that little baby every year?
Below is Daniel's article:
The PDF Version is here
http://www.dyordy.com/Archives/TheManifestationoftheSonsofGod.html
The Manifestation of the Sons of God
"For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." Romans 8:19-21
"The glorious liberty" is the point in God's purpose that must be our focus. We are escaping the matrix. Contrary to the movie, The Matrix, reality outside of the matrix is glorious, not dark. The difficulty of truth comes in discovering that the matrix itself, this present age, the life and world we presently know, is built entirely on lies and is false and ugly.
People love to hear of the grace of Christ, but they hate to hear that this world is false, especially the parts of this world that are "good."
The matrix is the curse. The curse was spoken by God, yes, but the serpent tricked Eve into speaking the curse herself with her own voice; in that way mankind introduced the curse into the present world. When Eve spoke the curse, the serpent inserted the lie. "You are not like God, not really, but you can be if you separate yourself from Him."
We live in the curse. People try to claim that they live free of condemnation in Christ. But they plan to die. Physical death is the condemnation of the curse; it is execution for sin. To accept physical death is to accept condemnation.
The victory of Christ is not found in turning death into something 'good' in the imagination of our minds. Death is not good, we know it is not good, that's why we fight it with everything we have. People say they want to 'go to heaven,' but they don't, they really don't. You offer them the chance to 'go to heaven,' and they will fight you instead and rightly so. We know instinctively that death is evil.
I'm not saying this to be ridiculous; I'm attempting to clarify the life in which we live. We live inside the curse - which in today's metaphor is the matrix.
We are not yet resurrected - except by faith. God is practical. His Word is a covenant with us. That covenant is binding on God. He must produce the goods to those who engage Him with faith. God must do what He bound Himself to do. He will do it in power; He will do it in the flesh, just as He says.
There is no escape for creation until the sons of God have first escaped. Creation cannot enter into the glorious liberty of the sons of God until the sons of God are living fully in that liberty.
To still be subject to physical death is to be not free.
There is more to the curse than death, but the fact of physical death is so up front and center for us that we cannot 'spiritualize' it away and thus succeed in removing the practical revelation of the power of God. There is a great desire to spiritualize the truth of the gospel and thus remove it from full and practical manifestation in this earth.
Every element of the curse is inside the matrix we are called of God to cast off. We must depart from the matrix itself before we can introduce all creation to freedom and glory.
Departing from the matrix, casting off the curse, is not something we 'achieve.' We are already overcomers. This is the victory by which we defeat the world, our faith. Everything of that glorious liberty is in Christ who is our life; we have no other life.
So yes, it is true that the fullness of resurrection is inside of me. It is true that I am in full resurrection in my eternal state before God right now.
God gave us two sides to our brains, the left brain idealism and the right brain realism. Both are of God. The problem is most people operate in either one or the other, not both at the same time. Grace people operate in the left hemisphere of the brain, idealism. Jeopardy people operate in the right hemisphere of the brain, realism. By themselves, both are wrong. God did not give us two ways of thinking without intending us to use both.
That which is true by faith must manifest itself in full reality in the earth.
God must be manifest in the flesh, or He is not God and His word is not true.
But God is true and His word is a covenant in which we stand. God cut the covenant with Christ upon the cross. We stand and live fully in that covenant; it is binding. This covenant is not a matter of "if we do this, then God will do that." That was the Old Covenant.
You and I are not in the picture in the New Covenant, the New Covenant is a binding agreement between the Father and the Son upon the cross. We are dead. We live only in Christ, but in Him we are fully alive.
The New Covenant is a binding contract between the Father and Christ who is our life, we have no other life. The terms of that contract, all the fine-letter print, are all binding. God has bound Himself by His word.
I stand before Him in His presence and I say, "God, this is Your Word. You said it. You are bound by oath to fulfill it in me."
We are free from every shadow of the curse in our spirits. But we are not free of the curse in our minds. We think curse in so many different ways.
Christianity is the exaltation of the curse. Christian theology has elevated the curse to "divine truth." That is why the only way we can escape the matrix is to "come out of her my people." Christians think curse in their minds and imagine they are thinking the truth of God.
The thinking of the curse fills the pathways of our minds. That is why we are transformed only by the renewing of our minds. The thinking of the mind must change from curse to liberty. But that change must be real and complete. Our minds right now think liberty in part, but only in part.
The proof is the resurrection of the physical body - that is, our mortal body being swallowed up by life. It is true by faith, yes, but it must manifest in the flesh. That happens by the changing of the way we think.
Most Christians view the resurrection as some future 'event' that has nothing to do with us right now. That view is untrue, part of the matrix. But in rejecting that view, there are two other side tracks that people go down.
One view is to spiritualize death and resurrection, thus enabling us to claim we already possess it in fullness. This then enables us to assert that what we know right now is all there is, be happy in the matrix, everything is cool. Just tootle along as you are right now and when you die and 'rise into the higher life,' then you'll see everything as it really is. The matrix is simply a figment of the imagination.
I see this teaching, that the matrix is simply a figment of the human imagination, all over the place. I read one person say, "Satan is real only if we think he is real; if we think he is not, then 'he' can have no affect on us." I see this view in so many 'present truth' arguments. Nothing is 'real' everything is 'spiritual' and thus imaginative.
I cannot reconcile that way of thinking with a Bible that is filled with God revealing Himself in history and in the flesh. Every word in the Bible is rooted in the context of physical human reality. Yes there are metaphors or symbols that represent specific truth, but what those symbols represent is also clearly stated in the Bible itself.
The other view is to believe for a present resurrection, the physical body actually being swallowed up in life right here through our present relationship with God, but then to define that relationship as God is One and I am another, and I must bend myself to God. That view then claims that before I can conquer death, I must first stop sinning, and since my propensity is to sin, then I must "die to the flesh." The resurrection then becomes something we must achieve.
This teaching is in sync with the norm of Christian theology since Augustine, that the believer in Christ has two natures, one of them fallen and sinful. It is part of what pervades Christianity, both Protestantism and Catholicism, regardless of whether the resurrection is seen as something we 'achieve' now or some future event unrelated to our present reality.
I cannot reconcile that way of thinking with a Bible that is filled with God revealing Himself in power in Christ in us. Every word in the Bible is Christ, and every word Jesus Himself fulfills in us. Christ is my life; I have no other life.
To believe that one is already 'resurrected' and to plan for one's own physical death is an irrationality I cannot know. It is fake.
To believe that one can achieve resurrection by bending one's flesh to the will of God is an irrationality I cannot know. It is fake.
God manifest in the flesh.
That says it all. God is absolutely true and God is absolutely real.
The purpose of time is to reveal the eternal. Eternal cannot be known except it show itself in time. God cannot be known unless He can be seen and touched and handled. Even heaven itself is waiting for God to be manifest in the flesh. Heaven cannot know God except through the manifestation of the sons of God. Earth cannot know God except through the manifestation of the sons of God. That revelation is in the flesh.
The covenant that God cut with Christ upon the cross is binding. Every nuance, every letter, every dot is binding. But it is binding in the power of the Spirit, not in the dead letter of human thinking, whether spiritualized thinking or naturalized thinking. That Spirit is the power of the proof of Christ. That's why the Son sent the Spirit; He came to witness Christ in the demonstration of power.
Proof in power in the flesh.
Let God be true and every man a liar.
You die right now and go to heaven and you will discover that all heaven is waiting on earth, front row seats, anticipating with bated breath the revelation of all their hopes. You will join them in the waiting. You will be waiting on those alive on this planet who contend with God concerning His word. You will be waiting on those who refuse anything but God manifest in the flesh on this earth for real.
This is a three step process. The goal is glorious liberty for everyone and everything. All humanity, both those alive now and those continuing in the place of the dead and those with the Lord in the heavens, is groaning and waiting and longing for this liberty. All angelic realms, from the highest cherub to the lowest sprite, creatures beyond imagination, forms we have never considered, yes, even the demonic realms, are all groaning and waiting and longing for this liberty. All creatures of the earth, animals and birds and fish, all rocks and trees and plants and hills, all the fabric of the physical planets and stars, all galaxies and all planets and any and all creatures God in His extravagant abundance has formed or will form are all groaning and waiting and longing for this liberty. All substance of heaven, all forms of reality in the spiritual realms of God are groaning and waiting and longing for this liberty.
This glorious liberty is coming out of God Himself, separate from all creation, to all creation, through us. This glorious liberty is the heart and revelation of God manifest in our flesh.
This is a three step process. First, God births His glorious liberty inside of us and we walk free from all limitations of the curse. All. Second, we turn and shatter the matrix, speaking and revealing in power all the fullness of Christ. Third, all creation walks out of the matrix, out of the curse of darkness and vanity in which it is bound.
The revelation of Jesus Christ given to John on the isle of Patmos, the apocalypse, the unveiling, describes the shattering of the matrix.
This is what people don't like. People who love grace do not like to think about shattering the matrix. And this is understandable. It is the wrath of God that shatters the matrix; that wrath is simply the outworking of His love. How can God be love if He leaves creation forever bound under darkness and suffering and sorrow and death. And don't think it's just earth that is bound under vanity. Heaven is bound as well. Heaven must also be shattered.
"See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, "Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven." Now this, "Yet once more," indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. For our God is a consuming fire." Hebrews 12:25-29
To break the matrix is to shatter heaven. To break the matrix is to shatter earth. To break the matrix is to shatter the nations.
Only when all things that can be shaken are shattered and removed will that which cannot be shaken, the heart of God inside of us, remain.
The disciples couldn't stand the thought of Jesus being crucified. Crucifixion to them was the opposite of everything they hoped for, everything they believed and longed for. Crucifixion was a mockery, a defeat, an unimaginable darkness.
Let's look at that contention between the disciples and Jesus. Understand that in their minds as humans, they fully opposed His plan of salvation.
"From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day. Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!" But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men." Matthew 16:21-23
"The disciples said to Him, "Rabbi, lately the Jews sought to stone You, and are You going there again?" . . . Then Thomas, who is called the Twin, said to his fellow disciples, "Let us also go, that we may die with Him." John 11:8 &16
Jesus ignored His disciples. With their inability to understand God, they would have prevented Him from shattering sin and death.
In the movie, The Matrix, Morpheus, the teacher, tells Neo a truth about the matrix that is universally true. I like using story as a metaphor of truth because for me it makes the truth so profound and real.
Morpheus explained to Neo that, although their purpose in defeating the matrix was to set all of mankind free, the people who lived and moved inside that matrix did not see it that way. The very people they were trying to free would be the ones who would fight against them to prevent the shattering of all the nonsense they held so dear.
Sounds just like John 1, "He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him."
Those whom Jesus came to save put Him to death because He threatened to shatter their world. Yet it was that very death by which He shattered sin and death and thus saved those who sought to kill Him.
This is the mystery of the cross.
To save the world is to shatter the world. The world rejects being shattered - they will kill the ones who alone can bring them into liberty - and in their rising from the dead, the world, the matrix, the curse, is shattered and creation is set free.
I am amazed and astounded at the demonic spirit that grips this generation. They stand and speak against those who speak against this world that holds them in bondage. Such dullness sits upon people today.
To set creation free is to make one's self the enemy of all mankind in the present moment in the exact same way that Jesus did. The pattern is clear; we follow in His steps. Our greatest opposition will be from our fellow believers in Christ. We do not condemn them for that, any more than Jesus did. We understand God's purpose. It is for their sakes, our deep love for them, that we endure the cross, despising the shame. One who rails against "those false Christians" is one who does not know Christ.
That brings us to some of the critical terms of the covenant. They are found in Revelation chapters 2 and 3, the seven points of overcoming. These are binding terms of the covenant God entered into with Christ to fulfill all that He speaks inside of us.
The first is "To him who overcomes I give to eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God."
Notice I left out the little word "will" as in "will give." The word "will," placing this reality as some 'event' in the future, is not required by the original Greek wording, it is placed there by the limited faith of the translators.
Now, Christians have always read this in terms of the Old Covenant, "If you overcome, then, after that, you will get to eat of the tree of life." That kind of overcoming becomes a future award for present human achievement. That is not the covenant God signed with His Son upon the cross.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world - our faith. Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?" 1 John 5:3-5
To overcome is to contend with God that His Word, all that He speaks, be true in all fullness, personal and real, in me right now, here on this earth in this body of flesh.
"I will not let You go until You bless me."
And I will not settle for anything less than all fullness of all that God speaks. To do so in any way is to settle back into the yucky, sticky fakeness of the lie. It is to pretend that I am a believer. I can tell you that I find nothing more abhorrent than to live in fakeness and pretending. I can wait in patience entwined in God, yes, but I cannot accept that my present reality is all there is. No way, no how, no nothing.
I overcome; I eat of the tree of life.
But then let's skip to the fourth step of overcoming.
"And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations - 'He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter's vessels'- as I also have received from My Father" Revelation 2:26-27
God has given to me by binding oath in the blood of His Son the power to shatter the nations.
First, there are those who would spiritualize this word, contrary to the reality and meaning of Scripture, to mean the "nations of the flesh" inside of us. But that whole line of thinking stands in open opposition to the gospel of Christ. Christ is my life; I have no other life. There are no "nations" inside of myself that I am attempting to bring into subjection to Christ. If there are, then I am already living outside of Him and how can one who lives outside of Christ bring anything to Him?
"Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world."
Our enemy is outside of us; we are not engaged in a civil war. We are sent by the Father to complete the work of His victory in the earth. All present cleansing is to change the way we think.
The whole Bible is written in the reality of life in this world, of the history and circumstances of man on this planet. Why on earth would God spend all that effort bringing salvation into reality, planting the blood of His Son in the dirt of this earth, only to fairy off into airy nonsense as He wraps this thing up?
Salvation is real and it really and truly swallows up everything that is not free.
On the other hand, although "the nations" definitely include the modern definition of a nation, the US, France, China, and so on, the word means more than that. A Biblical nation has no counterpart with modern "nations" which are less than 500 years old. A nation in the Bible was more of a people group. However, there are many "nations" or structures of collectiveness in this world. The world of public school and public college in which I maneuver is definitely a "nation" in its own right, a nation of bondage that must be shattered before this thing is over.
It is evident that God is speaking of shattering the United States. Just watch what happens when you speak against, "God bless America." If that demonic stronghold did not hold people in its terrible grip, no one would react at all. But few things will get you thrown out or in disfavor with both the church and the world more than to speak against "God bless America." The very fact that people rise up to defend it proves that it is a "nation" that must be shattered before creation can be set free.
Jesus spoke and moved so strongly against the Pharisees for critical purposes. First, He wanted to shatter their belief that they were "God's men," so that, if possible, they could be saved. Second, He needed their anger to fulfill the Father's purpose.
But third, and perhaps most important, Jesus knew the stranglehold the "belief system," the "nation" of the Pharisees held over the hearts and minds of the people of Israel. It would not have been possible for all those dear ones who embraced the gospel message to have let go of the hold of the Pharisees over their minds and hearts if Jesus had not shattered them openly before the people. Jesus proved that they were without power, that they did not represent God.
Yet Jesus never taught rebellion or disobedience against them. Jesus simply showed their fakeness and impotence. That is what got Him killed, but it was absolutely necessary for Him to shatter the hold of the "nation" of the Pharisees before those under their dominion could be free to switch allegiance to the real King. That shattering was real; Caiaphas was not making it up when he said that the Romans were about to destroy the whole country unless they did away with Jesus.
Paul said, "All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of anything."
That perfectly explains our relationship with this world. I am not under any "law" to do this or not to do that. I am perfectly free to smoke cigarettes. There is no "sin" in smoking a cigarette at all. The reason I would choose not to "enjoy" a smoke is that I know that nicotine is a powerful taskmaster who moves in quickly to take control. Once he has control, he weighs heavily upon his slaves until he drags them through misery in life and into pain in death. I do not "enjoy" a smoke because I will not be brought under the power of anything. (And I am not advocating smoking.)
The nations of this world claim absolute power over their subjects. If you don't think so, just try to cross the will of the nation in which you live and see how long it takes for that nation to bring you down. It is not possible to be an "American" without also being under the control and power of the American beast. The biggest problem is that most American Christians love the chains that bind them to the violence and deceit of this world.
America is 100% a lie. God says it is, and I believe what God says. God says that the serpent deceives the whole world, that the whole world lies under the control of the evil one. And He said that well into the present age of the church. If it was true then, it is true now. Truth does not change with earthly seasons. Because I believe what God says about this world, I am then capable of seeing the overwhelming evidence of the deceit of this nation.
America's purposes in this world are violent and evil. No one knew it at the time, but when I was a teenager, this nation was busy murdering 500,000 innocent Cambodian farmers who had done nothing to offend the US. Their only crime was that they were in the way! We burned them to death in their homes. Do we understand that? There is absolutely no difference between that act of mass murder than anything committed by Communist Russia or by Nazi Germany. No difference at all.
Jane Fonda stood before the wicked men who committed that great crime against God and against man in open defiance of their oath to the Constitution and rebuked them to their face. Today, she is a pariah and all the "God bless America Christians" rail against her as a "traitor."
The crime was real; it was evil; and it was utterly Satanic. To defend it in any way is to mock the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet I know men who love Jesus and who participated in that murder and who do not repent of their sin. Yet they judge the Nazis as evil when they themselves did the exact same thing, putting their hand to the burning of innocent people in their homes. Yet they belong to Christ.
Because Christians today justify the evil of yesterday, they give full license to the same violence and deceit being committed today. For instance, the government does not want the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay prison to be tried by civil courts because they know that most of them are completely innocent. The whole point is to see how much they can torture innocent men picked up off the streets and still keep the support of the American church. The primary reason Satan wants men tortured is so that he can pollute the church of Christ.
I am sorry. The evil of this nation is so great and the pollution of the church that defends that evil is so sickening. Let it all be shattered and come to an end.
My care, my concern, is for that woman who is beloved of the Lord Jesus Christ, who, even though she is polluted, is most precious to Him. My concern is to see her FREE. And to do that, the nations that seek to destroy her by pollution must be shattered. They must be shattered before she will turn from them to Christ alone.
That authority is given to Christ who is my life; I have no other life. I possess the authority from God to shatter the nations and institutions and ways of this world and in so doing to set all creation free into the glorious liberty of Christ revealed in me.
I must make this one distinction. Jesus commanded the wind and the waves and they obeyed Him. But He never commanded people. Jesus wins by love and He rules by love. To shatter the nations has nothing to do with shattering or "ruling over" people. The Kingdom of God is not a benevolent dictatorship; it is 100% a free will offering. What is shattered is the vast network of demon-filled relationships that constitutes the world-system of men dominating one another for gain. What is shattered is all manipulation and control of people through falseness and deceit and coercion.
I just read an article about the Lord Jesus versus human government that explains this truth about the kingdom of God. You may enjoy reading it yourself.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/mullen-t2.1.1.html
I will go no further into the practical expression of the implementation of the Kingdom. I have no personal knowledge of what any of this looks like or how any of it will pan out in the reality of life in this world. I know what God is doing; I understand His ways. I know what He says.
The truth is there. It is binding in the covenant. God will fulfill all that He speaks personally through us. What that looks like outwardly is entirely in His hands.
"I belong to You. Let it be to me according to all that You say."
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Leonard Fredette Thanks Chris, hey to yours 4 me, hope ya's had a great Christmas...
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26 December 2010 at 23:14 · LikeUnlike · 1 person
Loading...Chris Welch Yes we had a quiet one, but very enjoyable.Needed the break.
26 December 2010 at 23:17 · LikeUnlikeNancy Gilmore Merry CHRISTmas from me too!
27 December 2010 at 01:04 · LikeUnlikeCindi Estep Thanks Chris!!! BTW Did you tag only Americans? LOL I am glad that you had a much needed break at CHRIStmas!!
27 December 2010 at 18:18 · LikeUnlikeRosie Crawford I hope you had a good and a restful Christmas and that you are renewed in the Spirit of your Mind for many amazing things that lie ahead. Whoooooooooo Hoooooooooooo!
27 December 2010 at 18:20 · LikeUnlikeChris Welch Thanks Rosie!!!! No Cindi....try to get to know Paul Noble...he's a friend who used to be in the church here
27 December 2010 at 23:29 · LikeUnlike · 1 person
Loading...Richard H Stephenson I love reading lewrockwell.com ... divergent streams are flowing together forming a river of life, bringing healing to the nations ... this piece is beautiful ...
Thanks for posting
PS: Loved "the Matrix" as well
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Loading...Pieter Wessels FANTASTIC! i'm not even 1/10th of the way yet and it could have been me writing this. haleluja there r others with the same opinions. and all along i thought all were teaching either law or grace or jesus is lord or heaven and hell. phew, what a relief, the kingdom is close, let me tell u guys, close! i hope the people on this thread 'gets it'..
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Loading...Cindi Estep See Pieter....you're not alone!!!
Wednesday at 20:17 · LikeUnlikePieter Wessels hehe yes Cindy, wanted to fin the entire thing first b4 i chatted with u again. tx anycase for directing me here :)
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Loading...Cindi Estep You're welcome....I didn't understand exactly where you were coming from until I went and read your comments on other threads. We are on the same page! And there are more to come....many more!
Wednesday at 20:24 · LikeUnlikeChris Welch indeed. Actually Daniel Y, will be encouraged to read these because he has spent most of his life (not helped by Asbergers ofcourse) feeling totally out on a limb in his beliefs.
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Loading...Cindi Estep I love how we are enlightened as One!
Wednesday at 23:33 · LikeUnlikePieter Wessels GREAT!!! :)))
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