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by Chris Welch on Thursday, 22 September 2011 at 12:14
In 39 years I've never met an apostasy watcher that wouldn't have condemned Jesus in His own lifetime.
Modern apostasy watchers have Bibles with explanatory notes by the apostles themselves.
When Jesus was actually saying things by the Spirit...there were no notes.
When He said Unless you eat Me, eat My flesh.....there were no explanatory notes. There were no communion passages.There was no understanding of food as "hearing in the Spirit,believing in your heart and acting by faith on what you just heard." There was just in that moment a Spirit transmission from the depths of Jesus to your depths as He spoke these mystical words. And most left. And foremost among those would have been apostasy watchers...."This is a hard saying .I'm off"
Similar with the words " I will rebuild the Temple in 3 days.". Apostasy watchers have their interpretation spelt out for them now.....but they would have been totally lost on that day.
You know, you dont need elaborate websites to pick up apostasy here it is, in the Bible:
1 John2 Test One Jesus who is God came in the flesh
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
Test Two 1 John 3 The genuine is of God who loves...so likewise they will genuinely love
Test Three related to test one but even more specific 1 John4
2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
This is stressing the "flesh bit".. God has come in the flesh
and by extension God is coming in your flesh too.
How to recognise an Apostasy Watcher
They will categorise every possible shade of teaching BAR ONE
the extension of meaning of the above passage.
They will NOT refer to your anointing that you have received from God, because that means you would nolonger need the Apostasy Watcher....and they certainly will not refer to the Jesus extension that Jesus Himself is "coming in you"...for this apparently according to them is apostasy.
No. The truth is sadly for them the reverse. If they do not believe in a TODAY LIVING JESUS
who speaks
who anoints His own
who is "coming in His own"....those who are born again from above by the Spirit of God....
or even if they soften it down to mean
Hey..... a little bit of Jesus...has come into you to rattle around in your old man cage with you
and one day over the rainbow if you pay attention to our teachings
you will eventually be a good Christian and a little more like Jesus....
well congratulations sir/madam
you have just passed the Holy Spirit's apostasy test.
While you yourself are passing out apostasy tickets to all and sundry
YOU YOURSELVES REMAIN IN TOTAL DARKNESS
Modern apostasy watchers have Bibles with explanatory notes by the apostles themselves.
When Jesus was actually saying things by the Spirit...there were no notes.
When He said Unless you eat Me, eat My flesh.....there were no explanatory notes. There were no communion passages.There was no understanding of food as "hearing in the Spirit,believing in your heart and acting by faith on what you just heard." There was just in that moment a Spirit transmission from the depths of Jesus to your depths as He spoke these mystical words. And most left. And foremost among those would have been apostasy watchers...."This is a hard saying .I'm off"
Similar with the words " I will rebuild the Temple in 3 days.". Apostasy watchers have their interpretation spelt out for them now.....but they would have been totally lost on that day.
You know, you dont need elaborate websites to pick up apostasy here it is, in the Bible:
1 John2 Test One Jesus who is God came in the flesh
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
Test Two 1 John 3 The genuine is of God who loves...so likewise they will genuinely love
Test Three related to test one but even more specific 1 John4
2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
This is stressing the "flesh bit".. God has come in the flesh
and by extension God is coming in your flesh too.
How to recognise an Apostasy Watcher
They will categorise every possible shade of teaching BAR ONE
the extension of meaning of the above passage.
They will NOT refer to your anointing that you have received from God, because that means you would nolonger need the Apostasy Watcher....and they certainly will not refer to the Jesus extension that Jesus Himself is "coming in you"...for this apparently according to them is apostasy.
No. The truth is sadly for them the reverse. If they do not believe in a TODAY LIVING JESUS
who speaks
who anoints His own
who is "coming in His own"....those who are born again from above by the Spirit of God....
or even if they soften it down to mean
Hey..... a little bit of Jesus...has come into you to rattle around in your old man cage with you
and one day over the rainbow if you pay attention to our teachings
you will eventually be a good Christian and a little more like Jesus....
well congratulations sir/madam
you have just passed the Holy Spirit's apostasy test.
While you yourself are passing out apostasy tickets to all and sundry
YOU YOURSELVES REMAIN IN TOTAL DARKNESS
Cindy Lou Brown 2 Corinthians 6:16...And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.Hallelu-yah!!! For we are the Children of the Light of Christ..amen..Mwah!!!
7 hours ago ·
Sheila Enaami you shall know them by their fruits. We are free in Christ but we are to choose our words wisely, "my ass"? are you doing it in love? using such deregatory words Chris Welch? are you edifying or condemning people? I do not even want to read this kind of note not coming from a heart of love. My Jesus will not use such words.
7 hours ago ·
Michael O'Hara"Whitened walls"? "broods of vipers"? "blind guides"? I think this note touches on an important (very important) issue Sheila....WHO is the Christ many say they are following? (today) That group of people who stand before Him crying "L...ord! Lord!" Are seeming quite surprised that this Christ who stands before them "in that day" is not "their Jesus" and far more obvious He says they are not part of His "little flock".See more
4 hours ago ·
Rich Novek White washed tombs filled with dead men's bones, the "try and fail" promoters of the Different Gospel of Grace...AND! The mixed gospel of death! Thanks Chris!
2 hours ago ·
Chris Welch as an aside, because I dont mind upsetting people who need upsetting, but there's no point in upsetting people who are already listening anyway.....perhaps i've been subjected to too many Simpsons episodes...but it seemed culturally "ass" is quite normal in the States even among Christians....bit like "bum" over here. But just try saying "arse" in church over here. So UK people are nonplussed somewhat how Bart Simpson gets away with it. It's something to do with the removal of the "r".
4 minutes ago ·
Chris Welch Anyhow...God knows my heart....and I suppose that's the one good thing about testing things on Facebook....at least it's not an American congregation of 20,000..
2 minutes ago ·
Chris Welch If anyone wants to know how Carlos Shelton feels about Apostacy Watchers he has an "Online Discernment Mafia " Website.
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