I have never seen that, but the presence of the Lord has at times been so thick, all we felt like doing was lying on the floor. But you know something? We still didn't know how to live. We didn't and I observe that moist still don't have Galations 2:20 consciousness. This is why God is leading us into the third level. What David Swan in his book Holy of Holies calls the place by this name.

Really this is as nuts as the mum of the sons of Zebedee trying to get front seats in God's Kingdom for her sons. "You will make them top dogs won't you Jesus?" Notice Jesus reply. IT WASN'T NO. In some ways God likes us trying to bite off more than we can chew. Certainly the case with Peter taking his first steps on water. No the problem is never God not wanting us to have stuff...it's CAN WE HANDLE IT? Soldiers have to do loads of seemingly stupid squarebashing and mindless handling and dismantling of their guns and artillery. They don't go straight into a war after being on civvy street all their lives. Jesus NEVER went straight into the third level. He didn't climb out of his manger, sucking His thumb and healing little sick chicks in the stable. He grew up in all the boring normality of life. Charismatics have conveniently forgotten all this stuff and think Power begins and ends with the baptism in the Spirit. There are processes and some of us have been through them!!!! The most important thing we have learned is that we are not independent self run beings, and Christ now lives our life. This is actually true of every born again believer...but they DON'T REALLY KNOW IT YET....they are still walking around in their Genesis 3 figleaves as if Christ's covering isn't enough. How do we know? because we were professional figleaf wearers, and we recognise a good figleaf when we see one!!!
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