Josep is the youngest son of Jorge Pradas .
He played , with his brothers and sisters in the band Shalom and were regarded as the number two band in the 80s revival with Carlos Annacondia .
September would have been Jorge's 97th birthday .
Jorge died 24 years ago .
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Josep is not speaking from a Jerusalem mindset .
But what is absolutely true is that something about ecclesia began to happen through Jorge .
Ed Miller was of immense stature in God , but somehow he was still AOG. Jorge was talking church . The vision of the church . Now Juan Carlos Ortiz described it well when he said Pentecostalism was like a building site of unrelated stones . I haven't been close enough to Assemblies of God to know if they are growing in the vision of the Church .
Unless in the later years Jorge grabbed the articulation that God used Norman Grubb for , my guess is Los Rios De Vida churches will still be making their way through the Revelation 12 verses and seeking the vision of the church .
The bits Jorge wasnt grabbing were .....
1. Yes he did talk about Identificacion or Identification with the Cross Resurrection anx Ascension of Christ .....but they hadnt quite closed the gap as Brian Coatney and Sylvia Pearce would say .
Abraham didnt quite close the gap either with the subject of his wife . No Abraham , even if she was , the correct answer with kings is not Sarah is your half sister .
Jorge used identificacion but he was actually coy .
The difference between young man churches ....using young man as a 1 John 2 spiritual stage .....is that they remain coy about their new identity .
And they do this because the secondlevel hasnt owned up to the fact that self running soul ....self run unyielded mind , self run unyielded feelings and self run unyielded will is not actuall self run at all . But charismatics wont own the proper research into the mechanics of Genesis 3.
Self run is impossible .
We are powered by God breath or God breath looped around Satan's falsehood of there existing a life source separate from God .
Theres no middle force.
God is the only true Deity source . The devil is a false deity source .
So , yes in meetings we seek to submit the whole thing to God .....and like He promises , He is there in our midst shaping the whole event .....but for the king pastor . Pastors are ministry gifts and paty of the corporate office under One Head .
There's no one leader apart from Christ .
But our Ed Miller , Jorge Pradas , Ian McCulloch , Sam Fife generation accepted blindly what Catholics have taught for 1700 years with one Pope and one commandeering local priest over every locality .
This is all from angelic heurarchy
Pyramid compliance stuff
Its the might is right system of the world.
As soon as 1 Corinthians 12 starts
As soon as psalm 123 living starts
As soon as we can see with a single eye
Kingdom starts to function .
Yes we relied on the Breadth inside Ian McCulloch
Ed Miller , Jorge Pradas as great transition period leaders . But we shouldnt have to .....
Pauls 3 lists describe 14 different ministry gifts and in larger churches presiding whole cities many of these gifts will be multiplied . I am more of a Jorge Pradas type of prophet than a Charlie Shamp , or Robin D Bullock type of prophet .
I am sometimes what feels like plagiarising many ministries .....and by the Spirit I am insisting on all the things God has brought as individual Temple items be placed together .
I began this with Alan and Barbara Rogerson and this stirred up a storm with him .
He was absolutely not caring about spiritual gifts at all. It must be said tons of Union people have come with Norman Grubb from evangelicalism
Alan Rogerson doesnt have that excuse .
So my goal these past 37 years has been to speak to all divided bones , that all are ours .
Alan Rogerson could have done with Mechanics of Miracles Jonathan Brenneman in his back bedroom .
But God has a quicker method than my laborious attempts at making people angry by crossing their denial . He says in Ezekiel 37, prophesy to the Breath ,come from the four winds .
And as if to confirm Ezekiel and me , up pops Jessie Czebotar teaching us about the four terrestial principalities .
How would she know ? She was being trained through Michael Karkok one of the blackest evil Nazi influx who came over with Operation Paperclip . Trainer of a whole crowd of Supersoldiers including Pentagon and Nasa Colonel Michael Aquino .
So Jorge was faithful to his pyramid building ideal system which is nowhere in the Bible.
I prophesied into Jorge's ministry with Psalm 145
17.....no more shall you be called by the names of the fathers , but by the names of the sons .
I dont think the idea was that we have loads of crazy young man stage people rushing around . I think the prophetic idea is that because people are brought up in ecclesia that they are already functional thirdlevellers by Jesus age or even younger.












