Hitchhiker's Guide To Christianity II : PG and X-rated Christianity explained

This is the second of the three parts recorded in 1990. The first is here with more explanatory details. Enjoy.


Part Three was recorded but not allowed by U2 Management. The track was destroyed while wondering which direction to take next. The original script to part 3 is here, and is set in a large shopping arcade which did not really exist in Britain in 1990.

Hitchhiker's Guide To Christianity 1

Leonard and Jamie were asking to hear some stuff. We have a few computer limitations at the moment which means we have to move with what is currently on the hard-drive.So instead of the 1989 Third Level Christianity message here is the first ever public release of a track from my unreleased double CD."Early Harvest". It is one of 3 tracks that make up a small play entitled "Hitchhiker's Guide To Christianity".All the other items on the 2 CDs are musical. By now readers of this blog will be familiar with the territory. This was recorded when I was in exile in 1990 and if people are having trouble now...well you can imagine I didn't stand any chance nearly 20 years ago. The play gives a framework...the same as this blog....to the rest of the Cd...that is they are like waymarks in sound, songs and music which mark the growth stages of developing in Jesus. Blogs did not exist. Google did not exist.Windows moviemaker did not exist. So I've just added visuals by googling to what is just a CD track. Hope you like it. One last point and I've got proof in the shape of John Daniels who produced this with me....I was prophesying forwards to 1995...perhaps naively...believing that that was going to be the time for a worldwide download on these things! As it happens, God did precisely that, but in seed form...and in a way none of us could have dreamed up...in that 1994-5 saw this most amazing download of relating to the Father and the outpouring of grace in the Toronto Blessing. But where this leads to is a fresh maturity and authority in the Spirit. What I call the third level. So while everybody is still scoffing at the strange manifestations of this period...I am quietly saying...look again...you may just see a Mighty Lion roaring!.

We can reposition ourselves

If you want to learn more about repositioning yourself or your church I would recommend downloading this year's series of messages from Rob Rufus in Hong Kong: Invading the Impossible series, and Attitudes that attract the empowering grace of God.Here is something I wrote down earlier.


In 1986 the Spirit showed a picture of some natives in a jungle gazing skyward in awe at a metal bird. To us it is just a plane. The Spirit was saying "What is the difference between the natives and those who perhaps build the plane in America? Answer: 100 years of know-how in flight. He was saying in the same way, up until now we have been involved in praying in revivals, which have passed by us in a similar way, but never understood how or quite why. This remained a mystery. But now the Spirit wanted to take us into his confidence and give us know-how about what is really going on. The rest of this material can be found in Dan's Archives here the copy of my Letter to the Charismatic Movement 1990 posted 15th May2008.

The substance of all these blog posts comes from listening to God while tuning and driving. In the last few days I feel prompted to give some specific examples. Now in the old scheme of things, any negatives were condemnatory, sounded permanent and thus engendered dissensions and fierce battles in the Body of Christ.

Here's the good news! As in the passage above, while there still remain mysteries in God...these mysteries are not to be too mysterious. We are learning how to do stuff!!! We won't for ever and a day be a group of natives staring upward....we are being made co-workers with Christ. Co-sharers in His operations. What I call life in the order of Melchizedek ( see the post series).

You want another confirmatory verse?
"The knowledge of the glory of God will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea". That's the knowledge...the How to...the Spirit principles which allow us to open our hearts to God and make ourselves available to join in with His contemporary significant acts!!
Without getting too heavy about this point I do want to share a bit of 70s history. Then bring it up to date with some stuff a piano client was sharing. I knew she was a bit different when I saw Bill Johnson's book on her settee!

In 1970 Chorleywood had John Perry as minister. The AmershamOld Town Baptist Church had Eric Chambers. Goldhill Baptist nearby had David Pawson. These were all key figures in the early years of UK charismatic renewal in denominational churches. Now, unbeknown to most after all these years is this !!! All three met together regularly to pray and encourage each other. I believe some or all received input also from the nearby Slough Pentecostal pastor Billy Richards who later tragically died...in true stoic Pentecostal form...while believing God to heal his cancer.
All 3 leaders,Perry,Chambers, and Pawson moved on to other churches, but their works remain.

Here is the enigma. All 3 churches had access to the same stuff. All shared input from apostles/prophets/international ministries of the day. If anything...the Baptist churches were ahead on the born again front...as would be expected in those days.
So how is it that the only church anyone has heard of across Britain is Chorleywood?
Who brought in Graham Pulkingham and Body ministry, Juan Carlos Ortiz, then John Wimber in the 80s? Who founded Soul Survivor and New Wine...both conferences with national impact? Who helped HolyTrinityBrompton enable Alpha Courses, and encouraged the Toronto Blessing also with HTB?
Where were the other two churches in the national stakes? Who has even heard of them?

Well this is what my client shared. Apparently every single visiting ministry to Goldhill this year has said the same thing. God wants His church back! Now this is supernatural and should be an encouragement. He is about to move...so fasten your seatbelts guys!

My church was the Amersham Old Town Church,now Kings Church. And when I re-visited after 32 years I was disappointed. But the same will be true of them. God wants to move. He always wants to do more than we can ask or think. And the great news is we can position ourselves!!!

I've made some changes

I know it's messy. But I'm sick to the back teeth of people thinking this is some weird elitist site.
Then when I heard Rob's message "Taking away the veil" (see the link) for the 2nd time I realised we really are on the same hymnsheet. You see once people understand the Genesis 3:5 thing, you begin to see ...yes...for the first time in history...we're seeing a real removal of the former lies of Satan, to begin to see the Christ life formed corporately and individually in us.
At the moment many are calling it Law. But it's this remote-controlled living where we try to conform according to laws and statutes...
when there's no need for remote-controlled living
we're now battery-powered by Christ Himself through His own Living Spirit of Life!!!

Tim Atchley's post on Seed needs a wider broadcast

...........perhaps it was the damage I received when I received the baptism in the Holy Spirit , which turned me from a mild-mannered intellectual into wanting to preach into our main school assembly at 14...whatever it was...but there are various hot buttons that people like Mark Driscoll, my friend Michael Hammond or here Tim Atchley can press.............(Hope he doesn't mind this further example of my ministry of plagiarism) Tim is Sheila's husband.....
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Tim writes :Sowing Precious Seed Part 3
In the Parable of the Sower Jesus was communicating the pattern of the ministry these men and any witnesses of His to come after them would have.It also reveals the ongoing condition of people throughout the world, for all ages. These four types of people are present with us today, and will continue to be with us till the end of the age.This parable is meant to enable us to be faithful to the Lord as His witnesses of His Gospel till He comes.Jesus does not make the goal the fruit itself. The goal is the spreading of the Gospel. Why spread the Gospel?Most would say because it is what will bring men and women to Christ, and there is truth in saying this. In fact Scripture tells us that it is the very power of God unto salvation. But there is more.The Gospel needs to fall on every heart and confront mankind concerning the reality of God, the faithfulness of Jesus Christ the Son, and the work He accomplished.Every ear is entitled to hear the word, and every heart is given a chance to allow it to work. Each soil will reveal what nature it is. But the goal for sharing the Gospel needs to be in the sharing itself.This makes success much different from modern Christianity has made it out to be.Modern Christianity has convinced it’s followers that unless people are receiving Christ we are not getting anything done. I beg to differ with this ideology.In the parable of the Sower I find that a faithful sowing of seed regardless of outcome is what pleases the Father. Jesus in no way indicates that the Sower was wrong for throwing seed on all the types of soil.Nothing in the parable spoke of what to do about the types of soil. In no way is there any instruction on how to change the type of heart a person has at the moment we share the Gospel with them.On one hand we say that salvation is the Lord’s business, but on the other we want to be able to share with someone, have them pray to receive Christ, and then take the credit for their coming to know Him.What if Christians got a revelation that success according to Jesus is found in faithful seed sowing without demanding a certain outcome?I wonder how many believers would become empowered to share the Gospel for the first time if not more than they have already?
My reply:
1.This is amazing and needs to be broadcast more widely. We are always success oriented and this has had a paralyzing effect.Another thing that takes our eyes off a false success orientation came through Jorge Pradas who said Evangelism was so God could receive greater glory.(i.e.He is already receiving glory from what He is working in our own lives...He needs to receive greater glory by having a whole bunch more kids to work with.
2. Sheila has not said anything about how you are with Mark Driscoll. You'll know from Dan and my posts that there are certain misgivings. But one thing was fantastic about his talks in Brighton.(TOAM2008 free downloads.sessions 2,4,6) Everything they do on Mars Hill is directed towards more people coming to know the Lord. He really stressed they have no missions department! He doesn't use them. Every single facet of the church is geared to growth anyway.Many many practical ideas for pastors.
3. As mentioned in my testimony post (baptism video) I learned a bit about pushiness! I am nowhere near as pushy as my evangelist friend Michael, (who I am going to tell about this post by the way). What I learned was this....sometimes we acquiesce too readily to the unsaved person's brain which is working overtime to try and sort everything out mentally before giving assent to the gospel. While we are never to cross the sanctitiy of another human's will...the truth is no human brain is ever going tie up every loose end before taking the step of obedience and faith of humbly submitting to Christ. And counter-intuitively...having done so, the brain then starts putting together truths that have eluded it for decades, quite quickly....all within a very short while of knowing Jesus. So my experience with my friend has somewhat spurred me on. So many good things and changes have occurred for him already.There's a similarity here with the sales process. A good salesman gets a bottomline decision from another person....this takes politeness but firmness. The devil does not want a decision for salvation of any kind, and is continually seeking to overcomplicate everything.

Northern Europe and Russia - Update

General note:
Some readers might get really confused as to what my position is as they trawl through these posts. In the last post I mentioned various misgivings I have...and here am I championing David Hathaway. Listen, I used to get frustrated with Billy Graham, who never once talked about the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. But I was converted through his film ministry and Billy faithfully pursued his evangelistic calling to the ends of the earth and to the end of his life. Anyone introducing people to Jesus needs support and Jesus is well able to fill in any gaps through His Word and by direct Holy Spirit revelation....because He is alive!!! Here are some key historic breakthroughs happening before our eyes right now. This is very much a follow on from the Nicholas and Pam post.
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David Hathaway writes:Thank you for your support during 2008 - this year we have held TV crusades and broadcast in 11 cities acrossRussia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Estonia and Bulgaria - in addition we have held ministry conferences in 18 locations in Europe and USA. Also each week, our Gospel programmes are shown in 74 nations, not on 'Christian' TV, but on secular TV, to unbelievers-with responses from as far apart as Greenland, Iceland, Europe and even Kuwait!
Estonia - a breakthrough in evangelism in Europe - was the most powerful crusade in my life! Then, at the beginning of this month, December, we broadcast the crusade for the whole nation to see on their most popular channels at the most popular times, with repeat broadcasts included in the price! The response is overwhelming and still coming in - the entire nation has been touched. One woman, who watched the broadcast and who had attended the actual crusade, sent this testimony: 'Thank you for your ministry in Tallinn, our small child was healed
from a skin disease. We also took our unsaved friend, who had a problem with deformed legs from childhood. When he went forward to accept Christ, his legs became hot, he looked down and saw he was completely healed! It was also wonderful to see the crusade again on our local secular TV!'
In Estonia, right now, 110,000 follow-up newspapers carrying the crusade reports are being distributed across Estonia and Latvia by the Government Social Services and other outlets! Because of the power of God in Estonia, the churches in Lithuania are now asking me to hold a similar conference and crusade in Vilnius during 2009.
I went straight from the power of the Estonia crusade into Perm in Russia - the most powerful crusade in Russia yet -1000 new converts attended the follow-up meeting, 800 joined the house groups, and 100 outstanding healings were confirmed. From Russia I went to the Russian churches in America where, in one meeting, 500 young people gave their lives to Christ! And now in Bulgaria, a few days ago, I'm seeing the power of God increasing. The need of the world is stronger and more desperate now than ever, and God will answer by fire, by power.
I need you to continue in prayer for finance. - Because of the increase in evangelism this year, we still have a debt of £150,000 in the UK, plus a debt of $400,000 (US dollars) in Russia for the last crusades.
This current crisis is creating the greatest hunger, the greatest opportunity, for evangelism. All over Europe the people are desperate for the Gospel, pastors are pleading with me to come, the churches are uniting, and the unbelievers will come in their thousands because their only hope is in Christ. - We need to clear our debt so that we can begin to plan the crusades in Russia, Ukraine, Mongolia, Armenia, Slovakia, as well as Holland, Germany and the UK for 2009.
I believe that, if we will wrestle with God in prayer like Jacob did, the Lord will bless us in this crisis - and not only deliver us - but cause it to be seen that He is meeting our needs when others are falling.! pray for God's peace and guidance to be with you during this economic crisis; and in January I will show you how you this is part of God's Prophetic Plan to hasten the Return of Christ!
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There are some downloadable videos from these crusades: http://www.propheticvision.org.uk/

A Third Level Approach To Ministry II : Twinklers

Prodded a little by Lydia Joy losing her grandfather I wanted to continue this summary of thoughts on how the 3rd level changes everything we ever thought we knew about ministry.Maurice Smith calls mature Christians twinklers (see my book list).While others may age less than gracefully, with a growing cynicism, twinklers twinkle more!! Their eyes just give the game away. And you just know. You know they know Him in whom they have believed.

Without a powerful experience of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, a Christian seems to take several decades to become a true twinkler. Whether Protestant or Catholic, they are people of prayer and the Word. The slight snag is by the time they are twinklers, it is nearly time to go home...and they are severely restricted by limitations of age, mobility and possibly other issues.

So Youth With a Mission, Morris Cerullo, and Rheinhardt Bonnke hit on another system. Give the people of God an experience...a powerful experience coupled with a lot of training on the life of faith...and send them out to turn the world upside down!! In a way this is what happened on April 6th 1972 to all of us in a little corner of Bucks,England. And it seemed for a while we did turn our corner of things in Amersham a little bit upside down.But here is a snag. Youth With A Mission, Morris Cerullo and Rheinhardt Bonnke call this making twinklers. (Well they don't...but they call this sending workers out into the harvest). It is and it isn't. Let's return later.

For New Frontiers and a whole host of other networks of new churches, this is insufficient, so they believe in yoking developing ministries to local church situations over months and years. Possibly sending people to a more formal type of Bible College, be it run by their family of churches or some other institution that holds an evangelical position. Unless these new ministries are exposed to a radical Holy Spirit anointing either directly, as in Rob Rufus'case, or through other ministries...the tendency is always to settle back into "sound teaching of the Bible" but with little power and little miraculous fruit.Both approaches I would call the twin sides of the second level.
So to recap:Firstlevellers, by dint of continuing in the faith, continuing in prayer, continuing in the Word, continuing with the ups and downs of fellowship life, may well after decades and decades ...if they don't duck out... find themselves twinkling.
Secondlevellers will experience a baptism in the Holy Spirit, be introduced to the reality that Christianity is in fact supernatural in manifestation, be then driven back into a hunger for the Word, and a fresh hunger to experience fellowship together with other Christians, but this time at this new supernatural level . The growth arc will probably be shorter than in the first case. But if our experiences in the UK are anything to go by, we are still talking somewhere between 1 and 3 decades even moving pretty quickly before anyone even approaches twinkler status. And again there is absolutely no certainty that people will press right through. For this reason Paul writes "Do not harden your hearts as the Israelites did in the days of rebellion in the wilderness."
Firstlevellers know how to get others into a born again experience.
Secondlevellers get people born again and baptized in the Spirit. As I have mentioned before, in the year of 1972, at the age of around 14(Christine is one year younger), both she and I in our respective areas of the UK were doing all this. Now this for many fellowships would mean we had arrived. Well, here we are at age 50, and we still haven't. Because you see there is a 3rd level of growth.Without a vision, the people perish. Without even a sketchy understanding that there are 3 distinct growth stages, people all over the world in the Body of Christ are floundering around. You've got people like Amy, (see Amy's blog) who have probably been compliant for years in their church system...thinking that that would amount to something, confusing 2nd level churches with the raw real deal of the anointed Living Body of Christ. Ofcourse in parts it is....but the 2nd level stuff contains other ingredients as dangerous and poisonous as the worst plant foods that you could ingest.So Youth With A Mission, Rheinhardt Bonnke, David Hathaway, Morris CerulloAlso New Frontiers, and all the other 70s and 80s like networks, be it under Terry Virgo, Alan Vincent, Gerald Coates,Barney Coombs and so on and so on....are all (probably unwittingly and out of anxiety to get the job done) doing the Body of Christ a huge disservice....Why?Because they are calling the 2nd level a mature ministry and as the world instinctively knows...it isn't.
Because they are not raising the people's sights and expectations to believe that Jesus is faithful to complete the work in us to make us fit and able fathers who reproduce after our kind.We either believe in the power of His Word to raise us up as fit ministers ....or we don't. And if we don't, we help God along a little with more programmes, and training procedures and conferences.....
when what people need to understand is
How Genesis 3:5 works
How Jesus came to destroy all the works of the Evil One
How He came to lay the axe to the root.

What root? The religious system? The 2-bit secondlevel structures the grace-bloggers are railing against? Terry Virgo? Nope Nope Nope The axe is laid against us? Every flipping last second of the day we are not living from the reality of what the Cross has won for us. We don't need to go around looking for others to single out.Every little second we catch ourselves living the Genesis 3:5 "Just independent me"lie...we needDan Bowen, Amy, Sheila, Lydia Joy,Matt Daelon,Jamie,Leonard...to prophesy back to us..."Hey you...you are now Christ you...you have no separate existence...to believe that is to fall back into sin again, and to give life again to something that since the Cross can never have life again...the old Adamic hubris life of the devil himself lived through mankind.The people I have listed as Missions and New churches above...the YWAMs etc they need to be preaching according to the models in scripture. And I have never, I repeat never, heard anyone of them preach according to these lines.

Model 1. Jesus For 30 whole years He did nothing apart from grow in the understanding of how life works. He grew in knowledge and wisdom. Carpentry. Just learning to believe who He was. By faith. No flash stuff.Then was baptised in water and the Holy Spirit. Had the quickest 2nd level in history in the testing in the wilderness. That's because his personal foundation in God as a normal person for 30 years meant He could skip most of what we've had to go through in the 2nd level. Then straight afterwards He began to operate in the 3rd level. Two fold: Declaring War on the Devil in the territory allotted Him by the Father:Israel. Secondly: to raise up father ministries like Himself in just 3 years. All this while also preaching and teaching the Kingdom to 1. outsiders 2.believers and closer disciples and 3. the 12 apostles to be.

Model 2: The 12 apostles They were Jews. They understood the 1st level basics. That God is sovereign. That we give our life over to Him, expressed first in water baptism. That He alone can forgive our sins and make us new. They entered into an early prototype 2nd level, where although not knowing a born again experience yet, nor a complete baptism in the Spirit....from pretty early on they were sent out to chase the devil off God's Earth with power to heal,deliver and forgive sins.This shows us that at one level Morris Cerullo, Terry Virgo,YWAM and all are correct. As long as there is at least one 3rd level ministry...not everyone needs to be a 3rdleveller before embarking on mission trips.(There was only one Graham Pulkingham , but many in the Fisherfolk team for example)It shows us also, as we found on 6th April 1972, and again in Lakeland Florida this yearThe Power of the Baptism in the Spirit is put in context: as a tool for preaching the GospelThis is absolutely Terry Virgo and Morris Cerullo territory. And is accurate.Secondly, if you want people to grow fast...you expose them from early on in doing the work of the Kingdom with power. Even if that carries a high risk tag...as we saw with Todd Bentley. I am so glad that Jesus - knowing all about how sinful I was - still allowed me to lay hands on folks at 14 and get them filled with the Holy Spirit.Jesus came at the disciples with love, but also slicing stuff off them with His prophetic use of the Word...such that in only 3 super intense years they were ready to launch the Kindom for real at Pentecost. But as I've taken time to point out again and again in these posts, in Acts 2, they'd already gone through their 2nd level...which almost left them totally devastated...so when the Spirit came in power, they were 3rd Levellers....fit and able to father the first ever church at Jerusalem.All ministries that I have grown up with are totally wrong in equating our entrance Baptism in the Spirit with Acts 2.Morris Cerullo is wrong if he implies that at the end of one of his Schools of Ministry, as wonderful and life transforming as they are.....if he equates that with what the disciples were put through over a 3 year period. Rheinhardt Bonnke is wrong. You can't quite level the same at New Frontiers....in fact if anything they are too slow by Jesus standards....or they again call maturity what is not maturity....not like Acts 2 at any rate.

Model 3. Paul As one untimely born. Filled with the Spirit from the word go. But NOT given Holy Spirit wings to then go off straight away and turn the world upside down. (Morris Cerullo take note)Praise God that everyone hated him, or was cautious about him. He might be converted, but he'd been responsible for many deaths...one was specifically named: Stephen, the martyr. So there was no way he was going straight out on the road. Norman says Paul spent 3 years in Arabia. Gene Edwards says he spent several years in the Antioch church. Two things happened. He received from heaven during this period his gospel. Everyone has to have their own gospel.Divine revelation from Jesus Himself. It's not so we all start our individual cults. There is only one Jesus. And only one gospel. But Jesus has to make it our gospel. He has to write it in us. So we become living letters read by men.After 36 years I have a gospel. As we start preaching the stuff that is actually in the New Testament , and not the 2 level stuff we've been preaching for years...there is no reason why we cannot (in Jesus) raise up local bodies that grow believers in similar time periods to Jesus. In fact we have something that Jesus never had: we have the Holy Ghost Growing Machine - The Body of Christ . So this was the second thing that happened to Paul : that which was now in him was being worked out and recognised by this early example of a Gentile Church. This Jesus will make Himself known to others in our surroundings through us. Our gifting will be perceived.

As we look out at many weary faces who have been faithfully attending charismatic churches now for 30 or 40 years....it is sad to now say, there is in fact no reason why it had to take this long. The good side of our history is that the Terry Virgos, the Gerald Coates rushed in to fill the vacancies to provide good, solid, faithful and sacrificial leadership. Listen, Terry actually came to minister to us in Amersham instead of being present at the birth of one of his children. People only get born once!!! How sacrificial was that!

On the bad side, virtually the entire leadership in our country never knew that a 3rd level existed, let alone how to minister it. So ofcourse as they hit us with verses from John 15-17 about bearing fruit, and unity, and as we all sink in condemnation, because largely these things are not so in our networks...........little did we know that none of these things are really possible til we hit the motherlode of the 3rd level. Think how disastrous the disciples were in their 1st three training years. Forget unity. Forget pure fruit. They were arguing who was the greatest. Who's DA BISHOP!

In this post I have not even covered the question of Bible Schools. The writing of Jesus gospel inside us so we become Living letters is such a profound work....that without a proper release of the Spirit can take a whole 7 decades as I began saying. There is no possible way apart from a wave of Holy Spirit Revival Power,Revelation, and supernatural deliverance , (which by the way, on many occasions has swept through Ed Miller's Bible schools)....ordinarily there is no way on God's earth that a Bible school be kitted out with what it takes to move a man or woman out of the deep deep delusions of selfhood into the 3rd level in the 2 or 3 years usually allotted for the task.
I believe, as a fulfilment of what Jean Darnall, and Harry Greenwood, and other renowned prophets prophesied into Emsworth, I believe I was a part of a prototype wave of ministry training as God will refine and hone in the future. I believe the Bible House model of training which came through Ed Miller and then Jorge Pradas, are much closer to the biblical model. Where everyone leaves everything to come together to:
seek God together
learn what it is to live and work as the Body of Christ together
to be dealt with at a very deep level

and to teach also the things it was not good at:
teaching us to minister in Power together as teams
teaching us Norman Grubb's insights as to the true nature of the human condition in Genesis
teaching us what it means to walk as Christ in our individual forms
and at this level of insight -how to live together in love and the Presence of God

So what is the difference between that and a monastery or nunnery?
It's more dynamic,prophetic. People come together until a specific work has been established amongst them. Like Paul and Barnabus they are recognised in ministry, called out by God, separated for specific tasks. It's all the things New Frontiers wanted to be, but never had the tools for. It's organic. Our Bible House began around a house church in new Brighton Rd Emsworth, but moved into 20 acres of property as the church vision grew. It's less programme based...more based around the expanding Word and gifting of some rather dead individuals.
That is , individuals who have so caught this thing about being dead in Christ, they themselves are the programme!!! Like Mother Basilea Schlink, Graham Pulkingham, Richard Wurmbrandt,Watchman Nee,Witness Lee....every time they open their mouth they cause irreparable damage to people's insides!!!
In short they have become Twinklers of the First order!

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Norman Grubb - Yes I am- Chapter25 "I Get Myself Back"
Now we move on to the surprising and glorious effects on us of this total relationship of replacement-union. The chief one is the paradox.A person might think that this inner consciousness of Christ in me, as me, would give me an enlarged consciousness of Him and an increased glorying in Him. It does... even though He has already been, for years, my precious Christ in the love relationship of the Song of Songs. But what becomes paradoxically new to me is a totally new self-acceptance. And here, at once, we move onto "dangerous ground" — not dangerous to us, but to onlookers like the daughters of Jerusalem in the Song! Because it seems to produce a newly inflated ego —I! It does. But of course, we who have entered in and are now in on the secret know the whole key — that it is a Satan-expressing ego which has first disappeared forever in His cross, before reappearing as our new Christ-expressing ego. But it is a total reappearing of the "I"! Why? Because it has been God's fixed plan of grace from before the foundation of the world that He was going to have a vast company of fully liberated sons — liberated fully to be themselves — by whom He would fully be Himself embodied in human forms. Yet in that paradoxical relationship, unintelligible to those not initiated into it, the human "I" is its full spontaneous self, and acting as such. That is why I often say there is no egoist in history equal to our Lord Jesus Christ! He was always, I.
I—"I am the door," "I am the living bread," "I am the light," "I am the way." Emphatic self. Yet we who know Him are also aware— look within Him! — that He was always saying "I do nothing by Myself, but only what I see My Father do," and "If you see Me, you see the Father."That is precisely what happens to us. Before we know our exchanged life, while still in the struggles and self-condemnation of Romans 7, we dislike and downgrade ourselves — "0 wretched man that I am!" We are compulsively negative about ourselves and deeply suspicious of what we think are our dangerous tendencies. So now it is an altogether new thing, and may take a little time to sink into us, that so far from downgrading ourselves, because He now accepts us, wenow accept ourselves as His precious vessel, branch, body member, bride. Every part of us — our physical appetites, our soulish emotions and reasoning powers — are beautiful and wholly valuable as His outer means of manifestation. It usually takes a little time to realize this, just because we've been so used to thinking the opposite about ourselves.So now we're free to be ourselves, because we now know weare wholly His human forms. We live with raised, not lowered heads! Sure, we're not unaware of the subtle misuse today bypsychologists and many others of a false "self-acceptance" and"self-liberation to be ourselves." Indeed, this is universal,because the deceived natural man assumes he has no self except himself, and his only remedy for his self problems is the fraudulent build-up of himself as "inherently good." But just because there is a wave of modern, false emphasis on the build-up of self, that must not inhibit us from boldly accepting and affirming ourselves — we who truly know who we truly are!One notable effect of this is also another kind of paradox —in that in our normal daily living, for most of the time, we forget who we are, and just function as ourselves. It is the same principle as in our professional lives. Once we are competent in our particular profession, as we've said before, whether a cook,teacher, carpenter, engineer, or whatever, we do not spend our hours reminding ourselves or others that we are this or that,but we just go ahead being it. We don't keep saying "I'm a teacher, I'm a teacher," but we just teach! So in precisely the same way, when we know that we are really He in us, we don't keep running around reminding ourselves or telling that to others. We just do our daily job. enter into our daily conversations, etc., totally forgetting that it is He in us by us —but it is only He, all the time. So we don't have to have special prayer times to "remind ourselves," though we love any chances we have for our secret inner-love tryst with Him. Nor do we have to come to the end of a busy day and condemn ourselves for not having thought more of Him. If we do that,He tells us not to be so foolish ... for our doings and talkings were His all the time.
Can I just interject here (Chris). In the mid to late 70s a lot of the London leaders were preaching similar stuff...under the banner of "being naturally Jesus". There was something not right about it in practice...and maybe I'll do more in another post. People were calling "Jesus in them" things that definitely weren't. So what's the safeguard? Well, in the end it's living it!
You've got the Galations 5:19-21 list of the works of the flesh as a checklist for a start. You've got behaviours listed in Matthew's Gospel(5:21ff.... 6:1-27 and 23:1-36 )basically we know in our spirits what isn't Jesus...and for our blind spots we have others alongside who are also living in the Spirit.The Body of Christ...which isn't quite the same as the church structure ,by the way! In meetings we learn how to live and move as Jesus as us. All we are doing now is taking the same inner believing outside of the meeting room walls. We are checking ourselves all the time...is this Christ doing stuff through me?..am I in faith?Am I defined who is living my life right now? Cos if there is any fuzzyness...we're already slipping back into "independant just me living again" And it is this stuff that Gerald Coates,George Tarleton, Dave Mansell,John Noble and the early 70's Maurice Smith were not preaching.They were not defined. And some horrible things happened.
You have to understand...3rd level is as real as 2nd level stuff in meetings. It's not pie in the sky. After a while of living this way, you're nolonger verbalizing stuff so much...the 3rd level realities have taken hold of you...you are not holding them!!! Then when you go back into 2nd level meetings...your praise...your authority ....your naturalness with Jesus is just in another place, because you have been living there.
Think about it. David always wrote psalms. From the time he was a shepherd lad!. But having had Saul chase him around in the wilderness, then fall in adultery, then crumple broken before the Lord in Psalm 51.After all this...when he then established Temple worship ....well it was so fantastic...the very glory of God filled the place!!!! And that's where we're going folks...as hundreds of thousands start to learn about the realities of 3rd level living.(Unfortunately Norman didn't live to see it)

He continues.....
I don't think my friend, Gloria, sister of former-President Carter, will mind me telling this story about her. About eight or more years ago we were together at a Faith at Workconference in Georgia, and during the weekend the Lord revealed to her the secret that she was really Christ in her formWhen she returned home to Plains, she found a card in the mail asking her to speak on herbs at her garden club. But she told me that she knew little about herbs, so she spent the next day or two studying up on them. Then, after having given her lecture and returned home, she talked to the Lord in her room and asked His forgiveness because she had forgotten about Him those days because of her herb preparations. The answer He gave her: "What are you apologizing to Me for? I was co-herbing with you. That was My lecture, not yours!"So we actually are free persons and learn to recognize ourselves as such — free to express our opinions, to make our judgments, to do our jobs, make our choices. Dangerous? It surely looks like that, and others would tell us it is—who don't know the spontaneity of the union. But no danger to us who know our unchangeable oneness. We know that all we do is He, and we live the "dangerous life" of believing .. .which is knowing and thus recognizing that it is all He. We live spontaneously. If we cook, it is He doing the cooking. If we do our job, it is He doing it. If we have conversation, it is He conversing. Union in the Spirit is actual, factual. Where He is,we are. Where we are. He is. No hairbreadth separation between us can ever be possible.

One of the Greatest 3rd Level mysteries of all time

is how come Wallace and Gromit : Project Zoo has been totally overlooked.



We have gameCube...but whatever the format...these can often be picked up in the bargain bins for £5 or $5. May I say, that if any of you are into Nick Park's creativity....he reminds me so much of the unrivalled creativity of the Christian children's authors Nick Butterworth and Mick Inkpen...who used to do great illustrations and design on the late 70s Fulness magazine.

Well if anyone illustrates God's creativity...then Nick Park does also. The best £5 we ever spent on family entertainment was this game. There are so many hidden features. It is a mixture of light and dark humor, like the films...in fact it is virtually a film in its own right. Why all the ever so cool games review magazines completely overlook this one...well that's just one of the big 3rd level mysteries of the universe.

Or perhaps people have a life.

Speakers on Al-Jazeera Channel

One of the Christian speakers John and Wendy heard in Chorleywood talked about an interesting programme on Al-Jazeera. Some Muslims were reporting happily on the advances into all the nations in the world.....except they kept avoiding Africa. The interviewer pressed for an answer 3 or 4 times. At last, and reluctantly it was announced that the fight for Africa was being lost, because Christians had found out how to raise people from the dead. !!!!

"Can't see the join"- email from John Stevens

Got this email from John - ex Exeter Uni

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Heaven's a wild place - like it.

Today's bread: was running with a friend this morning getting shockingly cold but he's inspired to use Sun a.m. runs to share his life and interrogate me about a statement I'd made about having 1 and a half encounters with angels. Anyway I started to remember what it was like as a child listening to NT stories about Jesus at school and at church and yet not knowing anyone who could point to the reality on earth until I met a fellow under age drinker who knew the Lord. No-one in my family ever spoke about Jesus so it was all a bit bewildering. Then into a charismatic church at home and Uni tentatively teaching and exploring, as you say, salvation/baptism in the Spirit. And then wanting to reproduce the teaching in my life in greater reality receiving more through the Wimber years and at Roffey. But at Roffey having another big jigsaw piece falling into place all about being crucified with Christ not I etc Gal 2v20 Prob said all this before.

The point is that telling my friend all this reawakened that initial thirst from childhood and I realised afresh this morning that I have a chance in this life to live the very life of Jesus and just how amazing that is. In fact there is no other life to live.

Eric Morecombe (a third Level comic!) got it about right looking closely at Ernie Wise through those oversize glasses 'Can't see the join'

John

Time for Testimony

Not just mine.Anybody's.
A few weeks ago I brought a prophetic word about God opening up a well of Testimony. And I mean a word too!. I mean it was short. One of these short type of prophecies with only one word or phrase in, that I mentioned in a previous post.

Today the worship team took a prophetic line with songs about Jesus being a strong tower or fortress. God spoke to me. What I thought was great was it was before we'd really got going on the fortress theme...so I knew it was all part of today's package.

In 1971 Jean Darnall and other prophets called Christians together to celebrate a Festival of Light. From the coast throughout the land the old fire beacons (for messaging)were lit on every hill top. Then later Christians gathered in London. The promise given was that a great light would come in London then scatter to all the towns and villages, where the light would grow in all these regions.

Through the awakening of Christians through the fresh experience of the Holy Spirit, both old denominational churches and new churches have been growing stronger and stronger in their relationship with the Living God. I felt God saying...along the lines of various coastal prophecies given many years ago, but now featuring just about every town in Britain....

That now the fortresses had been formed. They were bases of God's power. They were strongholds of the Name of Jesus. And as fortresses now was the time "for the righteous to run in and be safe/ saved." as the song and the scripture says. So this also dovetails in with the promise of Wells of Testimony. What God has done in believer's lives ,we can still in our incompleteness, confidently declare that He can do again...myriadfold for anyone in the same kind of fixes. The power of testimony being that it reproduces the anointing for the same thing to occur again.
Some weeks ago we had a seabaptism of most of our Havant youth group, and ex-drug addict recommitting his life properly, and two of our dear friends Jed and Yvette.
Unlike other more evangelistic souls, Christine and I are generally more cautious about pushing people into praying the commitment prayer. But on this Sunday, Christine felt this so strongly from the time we got up. So at an appropriate time in the meeting we encouraged our friend Jed to do the deal, and ask Jesus into his heart. He and Yvette were baptised the same day. You can make out from the stills the glory on their faces as they came out. Jed looked 10 years younger. Forget Botox. We need Jesus!!!.
Thing is, unbelievers have no clue about how things can change the very day that you just submit your life to Christ. See, it's Jesus that does it ! If He wasn't real...what a burden to appear all happy and "Christian" with those gleamy teethy smiles.....but the thing is He is real. All we have to do is submit to Him, accept Him as Lord, and ask Him to come in and take over. He does the rest. Yvette told me today that Jed has been a very different man from this day. When he gets in from work, he nolonger has the whole world on his shoulders. People have greater respect for his role at work. He speaks with more assurance and authority. And this is in little more than a month already. The other guy baptised went the very next day to a drug rehab near Birmingham, where early reports say he is doing very well.

You can see how brave everyone was in the cold English seas. Peter Stott's opening words are "I think we should do a risk assessment of this". Many fine stills were taken by Wendy Wilbraham, but this is the internet...and sadly we cannot show them. I hope these clips that remain are sufficiently vague concerning the actual kids. The film was on my Sony Cybershot and it nolonger seems compatible with Windows programmes...I've spent ages finding edit programmes that bridge the gap. The music is Phil Keaggy : It's Personal-The Poetry of Keith Moore. Track 7 The Blood.

Preach it Dan!

Preach it Dan!

• yes it does matter what we sing!


• we sing ourselves into things
  
• or out of things


• what we believe in our heart and confess with our lips happens!


• if you don't believe me look at the whole of Genesis chapter 1.


• How amazing that Spurgeon wrote all that!!

The Weller's and me, and praying with folk

In case I get lost with this one, the general gist is this. Yesterday I felt very strongly to pray with an older man for his healing . I met him in the course of hunting down pianos to sell.



Like so many of you out there reading this, I am at that tantalising stage of having experienced the electricity of God's anointing upon me and seeing people instantly healed, or subsequently healed thoroughly some time later. eg 10th April comment 21:32
Or at other times to feel absolutely nothing...and still see the power of God move, as in the 90 year old in a coma in France. I think this is also somewhere in Dan's Vaults.

But the rest of the time...it's like Todd Bentley's debut, or Bill Johnson. You pray.....and nothing appears to happen. These two guys prayed for a gazillion people each before they saw any flow in it all.
So like a lot of you in secular jobs, you see all these sick around and you are faced with a challenge. Dan Bowen (see link to Life on Wings)who works in a hospice for children is up against the cliff face continually. Before you experienced the anointing, things were simple. You adopted the standard UK position.....God doesn't heal today...leave it to the NHS (that's National Health Service). It's very simple in denominational Christianity. You're immature if you expect God to heal today. He probably wants to teach you something through you being sick. It's very Que Sera Sera in English church services. You bring the requests of the people to God and , if in 10% of cases some improvement occurs...well that's God blessing folk. If nothing happens or people get worse, well that's just the sovereign will of God. Quite simple really. And if challenged in their position, the vicar/priest/minister will simply adopt that patronising glare, and quietly assure you that it takes a lot more maturity to bear with the sick and see their skin waste away.

From a patience/people skills/loving service point of view they know this is almost impossible to challenge...and so for the last 100 years since the anointing for healing really became commonplace again in a worldwide if not sparsely scattered sense in the Body of Christ, there has been this Goliath versus Israel army stand-off. The Goliath in this case is the firm unyielding position that true maturity is to expect nothing...so you will never be disappointed. Just get on with mopping up the mess until the inevitable occurs.
The Israel army position in this example is to believe that healing is out there somewhere, but that Goliath Denominational traditional position does seem to have a point...and we just don't know how to get round him.

Then a David comes along armed with 5 stones! Just 5 stones. Something like....well my grandmother was virtually dead and she immediately got well. Or those three men I prayed for lost their symptoms immediately..... and armed with nothing more than the promise that God is a good God and has been faithful before....David tears down the Goliath arguments of non-faith which have been around for thousands of years. (Please understand I am not talking about me or any particular ministry , but a position we must adopt if we are to see any headway)

I don't know if I will ever know if the man I prayed with yesterday got healed. But I felt a definite inward prompt to pray. They were Jehovah's witnesses, but unlike many that I meet...they did not seem 100% locked in left-brain teachings. There was some love...some spiritual life there that went beyond treating the Bible as a textbook. And based on that , they warmly received my offer.
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If you are a piano tuner, and if you are any good...one part of your job is going to take you into stage work, or into the homes of famous musicians. You soon lose the starry eyed tendencies that celeb culture encourages. Because, other than serving these individuals to the best of your abilities.....the celeb bit means absolutely nothing. You're like a butler in somewhere like Chequers (the PMs UK Country home). You're there to do a job....and that's it. My website lists some of those I have tuned for.

From 1978 until around 1985 I lived exclusively in Christian Community. Our generation threw many many things aside to explore how this seeking of God thing worked. One thing we threw aside was TV and secular music. The good thing about that was that we experienced a clean break. We knew we were not dependant on any of the hooks that secular media plays your insides with!!! The bad thing about that was when I was called to Paul Weller's house, or more particularly his parents John and Ann's house....I had really no clue as to how important a guy he was. I discounted the whole punk thing as of the devil anyway. Listen....I wasn't even sure about Cliff Richard!!!! he used drums!!!! .......So forget Paul Weller!!
On the floor of the lounge was a mountain of letters. It was only where Paul's sister dealt with the entire Jam or Style Council fan club! Sometimes Paul was there visiting when I was tuning, but being pretty reclusive, I never saw him until one occasion. On that tuning, I chatted with him about the merits of his Dad's Yamaha Grand.
So here is some background to me and the Wellers.
I'm assuming I am the last to know....but if not, can I just say that Paul Weller has survived about 3 incarnations as a Jam band member, as part of a duo in Style Council, then since the late 80s out on his own....a total of 30+ years as a successful performing artist. Since my total ignorance of punk I have been catching up. I have also been listening attentively to Paul's stuff. While I was tuning for them he won the Ivor Novello award for Songwriting. If you've not heard his stuff you must listen to "WildWood","You Do Something To Me", and the rougher "A Town Called Malice" and "That's Entertainment". Also "Standing Out in The Universe"...well so many really..
His Dad was a rock. A manager with a lot of flair...but also a lot of will to succeed. see more here
and also here.
He reminded me of a shrewd London market trader. He had more faith for money in his little finger than I probably do now after having immersed myself in the Prosperity blessings of the Word. He was ALWAYS generous. He never once paid me what I charged him. It was always more. I enraged him once when he was looking to sell a little upright to me, and I wanted everything secure on my side of the deal. The point of business is that the one taking the risk should stand to make the greatest profit. As I've mentioned before in the episode with Rory and Wendy Alec....I can have the vision and faith of a gnat, sometimes. This intellectual UK approach to life, born out of a great education, that then as soon as possible plunges itself into the greatest possible security of a reasonably paid job in a bank, or the council, or an accountants'......well it's just the sort of middle-class narrow existence that Paul rails against in his songs. And pretty darned right! If we spend our life trying to avoid extending in faith and opportunity...all we're doing is burying our "talents" in the earth in case anything happens to them. And this aspect of Paul and his Dad ,being ones who are all about extension..... comes straight out of Kingdom thinking.....but they never knew that, because they'd all adopted the fixed atheist posture. And probably because any Christians they've ever met....have been pretty naff.

On the last occasion I tuned for them, his mum was pretty distressed. John was in hospital and was not doing well. I guess Paul was either in London or with John. I felt suddenly to go for it, so I asked Ann if we could pray. I felt to be really specific, and I looked at my watch and prayed that from that moment at 1 pm, John would get better.
I saw John and Ann a few weeks later in Bosham Walk near Chichester. John clearly did not want to know. I was ofcourse pleased because he was up and about. But without speaking how is anyone to know? You are all left with silly game-playing. He's probably thinking: that Christian twit probably thinks I am well again because he prayed for it.....when really the doctors managed to pull me through. Perhaps that is actually what happened. Or his improvement really was remarkable...but because God doesn't exist...he certainly doesn't want to do anything to fuel the mad beliefs of that twit Christian.
Who knows????????Perhaps someone who knows Paul can ask him.
John and Ann moved nearer to Paul after this, so I never did their piano again.
One thing is interesting. Paul has put some sort of track about God on his latest CD.
I hope that this post has expressed something else too. How much I hate Christianity in the UK.
Does it make it clearer in a larger size and with big letters?
How many other leading artists are to be condemned to a life of near atheism because you Oh England actually choose to run a Christianity that stinks..... want a verse for that ??? Rev 3:1"you have the name of being alive but you are dead"

The War Room : Salt Into Sugar

Christine has just returned from a Havant Church meeting. Sunday's evening meeting is called the War Room. This week they felt to pray at one of the natural Havant springs. There was a sense that they should take some salt. (Like when the prophet prayed over bitter water at Jericho,was it? to makethe waters sweet again) One member brought a whacking great salt container, so they agreed to empty some out and take a smaller quantity in a tupperware tub.

When they arrived and opened the pot, one of them thought the salt looked a little odd...so he tasted it...it was sweet. It was sugar. He went to the other member and said "You brought sugar by mistake". But when they were back at the church......on inspecting the great salt container...it was indeed salt.

The salt had been turned into sugar!!!! We're not that used to these sort of things yet. I think everyone's flabber was ghasted.
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My friend Michael cautioned me to clarify what I feel God is saying here. There are local resonances going on as described in Havant,Parchment ,Signing the Register.
I wrote to him"I think it is God saying...indeed I will bring sweetness to the streams...both natural and spiritual which nourish Havant."
My friend John wrote:
Interesting. The salt/sugar passage summarises my sketchy understanding of my role in preaching at my church. That's not to say that my church is bitter or that they re crying out to me as a miracle man. Just a private conviction and helps bring some shape to my role. I've only felt at liberty to mention this to one or two as it could cause offence! Lovely miracle you guys experienced - prob thinking about the salt is good. And just great to experience the sweet! I always find this - certainly up to now. When God speaks to me and I hear his word almost invariably it is sweet and reduces pressure and kicks anything like guilt or fear into touch. I still find the goodness and grace of God an unexpected thing. The normal christian life seems so abnormal until it 'happens' again then it is so obviously true and right and 'sweet'.

It's this simple...........Expansion pack.

In Thy Kingdom Come and The Land series of messages by Ern Baxter this is what we learned....

At the moment that Adam reached out for the fruit and Satan's spirit of falsehood entered, God reached down his hand and took from His chosen delegated authority of the Earth
the keys of the Kingdom
until One came that could handle God's authority in a space-time world....

His Name was Jesus.
Until that time how did God handle things? Ern said : Through His designated authorities in the earth
Prophets............. until Christ came.
Hebrews 3:1-6 tells us that ..... Christ is faithful as a son over God's house. And in Revelation 5:5
we learn there is only One who is worthy throughout the whole of heaven...the Lion/Lamb Jesus.
So back to Genesis 3:5 then. What exactly happened?
Psalm 24:1 tells us that
The earth is the LORD's, and everything in it,
the world, and all who live in it;

Yet, nevertheless something happened.....as we see in verse 7.
Some gates were erected....some doors slammed shut.
God could nolonger just come and go among the people He had made.
Beginning with Adam and Eve hiding...through the Israelites hiding in terror at the bottom of Sinai.....there are now doors in the Earth that should not be there. Should never have been there.

Westerners have no concept of spiritual doors. In large part because of one large erected door. The door of the left-brain...the step by step understanding...the adherence to believing only what I can see,touch and intellectually get my head round. The advantage is a tremendous resistance to wide pursuit of the occult. The disadvantage is ignorance of the Kingdom of God and how it operates.

From whirling dervishes, to clearing your mind and creating passivity in Eastern meditation, to the practice of persistantly calling for your god of choice to come
whether as an African witch doctor
South American Shaman
Northern territorial Shamen in the Arctic circle
or spiritist mediums,
or the use of mind altering drugs.....there is always a calling on spiritual powers.

This is counterfeit. But it is a door opening!!!

We on the other hand as lovers of God, are invited to call upon the Name of the Lord,
to enter His Courts with praise, to lift up and bless the Name of the Lord Jesus.And He too comes amongst us by His Spirit. Sometimes with miraculous signs and wonders. Sometimes with a strong sense of His supernatural Presence. But this is all the same thing. Door opening!!! Only He is Holy. Anything else we may call upon as humans...we are told is not Holy. Even though it may appear to be holy. (The devil loves to manifest as a seducing angel of Light.)

1. A prophetic declaration has been made by Jesus.
2. We have been taught a principle by Jesus.
3. We have been given a prayer by Jesus.

He declared prophetically that "The Kingdom of God is at hand!". This message was passed onto his disciples and through them to us. The principle was that the Kingdom of God is near us...even in our mouth. The prayer is the "Our Father"

All these things are door opening things. Psalm 24 :7-10

Lift up your heads, O gates, And be lifted up, O ancient doors, That the King of glory may come in! 8Who is the King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, The LORD mighty in battle. 9Lift up your heads, O gates, And lift them up, O ancient doors, That the King of glory may come in! 10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, He is the King of glory. Selah.

So we are all under the delusion that the Kingdom is far far away. But Jesus says: you lost it in the Garden. But you can have it back now! Legitimately. By calling on My Name. By making Me your King. In your hearts.The kingdom that you thought you were living in...the kingdom of you ,was never just you. It was the kingdom of Darkness. And if the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness. How big the deception. But now by making Me your King...You let Me live my Life through you. Just as before, in Darkness, you could not live independantly...though you thought you did, so now, you cannot live independantly...It is Me living through you.

That's why the Kingdom is near us...even in our mouths. We believe in our hearts. We confess with our mouths. and we are saved.
We believed the gospel of Darkness and accepted the Devil into our hearts...and were eternally lost...in the Garden. His gospel was you shall not die if you disobey God...but instead you will be like God able to be free...independent beings...able to choose between right and wrong....not telling us that instead the Kingdom Gates would close on us....and that at the same time we were accepting a virus spirit...an operating programme that was absolutely irremovable...and its death effects on us would continue even after we received the new gospel of Jesus Kingdom, 2000 years ago.
But Jesus'declaration was that we can drive out this spirit of Darkness, by accepting Jesus new Spirit of the Kingdom. By confessing it with our mouths. By praying this prayer right into every last molecule of our beings...into every recess of our spirits.

Our Father, our Eternal true Daddy...not like the false one who operated us before,
Holy oh so Holy is Your Name....make Your Name even more Holy through even me,
Your Kingdom Come....Your will be done...through me, as even now throughout heaven it is being done already.
Forgive my sins even as I forgive the things that are the fruit of my fellow humans' wrong believing....fruits of their belief in an independant self...which is really the devil expressing his own seducing lusts and desires through them. ( "Hereafter we see no man after the flesh")
Lead me not into testing and temptations....pulling on my "independant desires and whims" but deliver me from evil. Deliver me from my own "landing places". As Jesus Himself was described as after being tested in all things, by the end of John's gospel the devil could find nothing in Him...no landing places.John 14:30 AMP I will not talk with you much more, for the prince (evil genius, ruler) of the world is coming. And he has no claim on Me. [He has nothing in common with Me; there is nothing in Me that belongs to him, and he has no power over Me.]

By using the tools of the Kingdom....our heart believing...our mouth confession
that it is Christ living in us as us

We are literally opening up the Ancient Doors of Psalm 24...that the King of Glory may come in.
Adam was made a Living soul. Dust...powered by the spirit of God's own Life.
But now in 1 Cor 15 :45 the Christ in us becomes a Life giving Spirit.The Body of Christ a fit vessel of glory...anointing...heavenly blessing and natural earthly fulness. Blessing means "heavy packed to the rafters fulness" more than we can ask or think.

Beloved......the reason God had to give us the gift of tongues was so that we can speak into being the mysteries of heaven. But these mysteries...like for instance that
Christ wants to live out His Life in us as us....are concepts so high...so fraught with potential to divide Christians....so absolutely wonderful or plain freaky to a western world which lives almost entirely in the left-brain.....that God had to get us speaking all this out without us understanding a blooming word...so it stood a chance of ever being uttered at all...and not being filtered out by "us clever clogs".
SAY AMEN!!!!

It's this simple..........PERIOD.

ADAM reached out an arm and grabbed a fruit.
As he did so a false spirit entered his spirit chamber.
Permanently.

At the Cross, this false spirit was ejected from our spirit chamber.Permanently. Now we reach out an arm, leg,.....anything....believing it is Christ as me...in my form. PERIOD.

Life In the Order Of Melchizedek III : Arthur Blessitt

I never knew that Arthur had begun his journey already when I saw him at the 1972 London Festival For Jesus....with his bus....and wife and kids....all handing out tracts and preaching in Trafalgar Square to some 25000 people.
Hovis kindly donated bread for a massive communion.

But during the 80s, being also aware of Steve Lightle being ahead of time preparing the way for what God had spoken to him,
and also Lydia Prince....who went by the Word of God to Jerusalem...
Well I began to see a pattern...and I felt that ArthurBlessitt's 1969 commissioning was of the same order....He was literally a walking intercession around the globe into all the countries to prepare the way in the Spirit for a global move of God.

I am currently just finishing Jessie Penn Lewis's book on the Welsh Revival....and the lead up to this was a series of fragmented (seemingly) obedience steps...often simultaneous yet unknown to the other parties. Well...the scale is now global...and I believe one piece of the jigsaw was Arthur, downing tools as a great evangelist and just going with Jesus for some 30 years into every corner of the planet!! I really believe in this Melchizedek Order that defies human explanation and organisation!!

Bill Johnson at Maidenhead

I am so encouraged by the drift of what Bill Johnson is saying in Maidenhead on God TV tonight.
Many new things...or emphasises - but also lots dovetailing in with the material on this site.

Bill doesn't use "3rd level" as a phrase(not many of us do)....but what he is sharing is what the Spirit is now saying to the churches.......

Do you remember I've been emphasizing about Jesus nailing people with the teachings on "You must eat my flesh"...and nearly everyone appearing to leave...save for the disciples...this is what Bill was on tonight.
It is really vital for England that the cross be applied to adherence to our understanding in this country.....

Also that we nolonger hide behind the attitude that the faith life is not for us....
My anger about this was expressed the other night about God having to use South Africans instead of us for his faith operations. Bill was releasing a word about faith for great projects here in GB.

He was also starting to unpick the Lord's Prayer....this is so on my heart at the moment, as many of you know.

His emphasis on the Body moving in healing ministry with each other.

He was talking about learning about how the anointing can rest on us wherever we go...so instead of answering questions no one is asking......we are taking creative solutions with us to unbelievers at their point of need. This sort of thing was also being described by Rob Rufus as they were going on their "extreme treasure hunts"....evangelism with words of knowledge. You can download the recent mp3s from Hong Kong City Church....see links.

This Stibbe guy! He has it all??!!

This Mark Stibbe is amazing! I've been thinking about it today.



He has a Phd.



Actually, just about the time that the secular theologians thought they had it all...now that CS Lewis is dead.....



up pops this man Stibbe with a critically acclaimed appraisal of the Gospel of John.And that was his Phd thesis.





Secondly, he has quite an anointing. Obviously there is no anointing-ometer...so I cannot compare him with Rob Rufus...especially only seeing him at one event...RiverCAMP.





Thirdly, like Rolland and Heidi Baker he is setting up a ministry to orphans.



Fourthly, he is ministering this precise message (the Father) into the Body of Christ at this time,
and this surely is at the heart of the third level message in 1 John 2 " Fathers.....because you know Him who is from the beginning.

Fifthly, he has the vital pre-requisite of any prophet,( see Elijah with the prophets of Baal if you don't believe me).....that is ofcourse.....toilet humour. There are few funnier things I've heard this year than a quarter of an hour spiel on "a mobile toilet facility". You get this included if you order his amazing talks on the Father at RiverCAMP 2008.

So, I've been chatting it over with Jesus...and asking whether the rest of us can go home to heaven early while Mark Stibbe uses the now empty God TV studio to reach the rest of the world. But apparently Jesus says no......

A Third Level approach to ministry I

"God doesn't call ANYONE INTO MINISTRY! Its a lie! Its a fake! It's also a detrimental saying...that is simply that...but gives misconceptions.

You see...if you read Matthew 10:1....He CALLED the disciples TO Him." So reads Ursula Kuba's post today...you must read it.

For different reasons Zerubbabel (see links section) would agree with her.

I don't quite....but almost. What is making me a bit speechless is that I've found myself groaning inwardly about this precise subject most of the weekend. Is it not also incredible that at 2 key UK conferences...RiverCAMP through Mark Stibbe and other leaders in Shaftsbury have felt to address this head on this very summer. It is part of the substance also of "Orphans and Heirs".

These Conference messages, from different people were talking about:
"Inward
Upward
and Outward."

Morris Cerullo would say unless you have an experience of God's Power and love...how are you going to minister it out? Inward then is this experience.
Upward is our corresponding relationship and gratefulness back to God...our God....
which leads to an outward that is God-driven not man-driven. An exact set of instructions that we KNOW we are going to be empowered to carry out. Kind of takes the striving out of it all.

We are called to ministry I believe, but like all things third level......it completely re-writes the rule book. And rule 1 can almost stand on its own like Ursula says.

Rule 1. Get called to a relationship. With Jesus. We don't have to initiate this. His arms are already open. He loves us. He loves us so so much. Unconditionally.

People know that although I love evangelical people...after 36 years I am losing patience with the evangelical systems. Last year I addressed 2 particular clients after years of serving them....because I felt as important as my job is...it may well be that no one has ever dared to break into their world and challenge them. One was quite old...so I was sensing the time to be short. The other was an ex-pastor with an invalid son. The pastor was so locked into his Calvinism....Que sera sera...that there was no way he'd ever see changes happen without being challenged about his beliefs. These situations are still ongoing...but the difference was...I nolonger remained silent!!! That at least had changed.

The same thing is happening right now with me and the second level. Again not the people...the system.
Once you see the 3rd level clearly...you will never go back. People think it's so odd,because they are still delighted with meetings with spiritual gifts......but at no point is THE PROBLEM...the ONE PROBLEM, the Genesis 3:5 problem ever addressed. People get back to Deuteronomy 28, the very real promises of God...but no further. And if you don't get to the root and you go into ministry this is what it looks like.
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Parable by Graham Pulkingham and the Fisherfolk as vaguely remembered from their 1973 visit to Amersham Old Town Baptist Church.

One day in the wild wild west a town sheriff died. He had been effective,but wise,and had carried out his duties well. It was clear to the towns people who should be his successor. Why, it was clear! It should be young Tom the sharp-shooter. Boy was he good!. He could hit a can shooting from the the other end of town. So everyone felt that to be safe as a town, Tom was the obvious guardian.

He had some funny ways...like the way he wore his badge. He was particularly proud of his badge, the one inherited from his predecessor. But there was one thing wrong with it he felt. It could be easily missed. So he got the silversmith to make him one that everyone could see.

This one was about 9 inches in diameter. He strutted around with it and made sure that everyone could see it clearly. I'm only doing this he thought to himself...as a matter of safety. Because if everyone can see it, they will be less likely to try anything on.

But one day he noticed that there were some people laughing at him over the other side of the street. He wondered what they could find so funny. Perhaps they did not realise that he was a man of importance, there to protect the townsfolk. Perhaps they could not see his badge.

So he went to the silversmith and ordered a huge badge. A badge that was so big it covered the whole of his upper body down to his knees. This will promote safety, he thought. But I need everyone to see it so they can feel safe. So they can know that something is being done hereabouts with all the badlands nearby an' all !!

One day, a bad mean looking guy walked directly into town with a fully loaded shot-gun!
I'm in charge here he hollered.

Tom, the sheriff, came out of the jail house. He motioned to everyone to stay calm! He was here. The man with the big badge of the law. The authority!

The mean guy just eyed him, and facing him from a way off just raised his gun.
Tom, raised his gun in response, confident in his skills and speed. Before the other man had time to pull the trigger, Tom let a bullet fly! But unfortunately it ricocheted off his enormous badge and entered Tom's heart immediately. Tom sunk to his knees as the awful truth hit him too late.
He'd made a huge error of judgement!

The Definition of Persistence

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i know that

i just asked you a simple question that do u know about Malala yousaf karzai?

?
that was written before your question came through. What do you say about her?

she is a muslim girl...right
yes
she was on BBC just now

why american are sppourting to her?

does she did anything for the america?
are Americans supporting her?

She is in Britain

she is in america my sweet brother

well brother she fired some terriest

terrorist

and now she getting awards from all the christians countries

and every one is saying that she is doing for the childrens education in pakistan

well who is right?
did she shoot a terrorist or did she get shot in the head because she wanted freedom of education?

noooo that is wrong
both things, one thing? I am confused
The story is thatshe arrived in Britain because she was shot in the head by the Taliban because she wanted the right to education for girls

she was just going back to her home after her school by walk sundden some terrorist came on the road...because police was behind them and they were fighting with eachother in that case some kids were passing from that road and they got shooted by them
They helped her in a British hospital I think
so you are saying it was a stray bullet

many girls were there those were shooted there by the talban why they dont permote

her father was alredy in Brtain and he was doing some kind of job there
that wil be the connection

he got help from bartain government and permote his daughter that my daughter was fighting for the girls education in pakistan
the West hate Taliban for banning education for girls and for being against rights for women

ita all are laid

i m the right person who is doing struggle for the kids education and have jesus in my heart without any afraid

i m not afraid from any kind of talban because i know that my jesus is with me...
I will have to write out your sentence as i understand it.
he got help from Britain and promoted or told the story that my daughter was fighting for the girls education in Pakistan.
Why your daughter? Did they know each other?

i m proud on myself that i m true person...and no one believe on the right person

as we did not believe on jesus christ when he came for our salvation
permote his daughter that my daughter was fighting for the girls education in pakistan...don't understand this sentence
i m proud on myself that i m true person...and no one believe on the right person

I am proud of myself that I am a true (faithful and true person) and no one believes in the right person.....you mean when Jesus came the Jews did not recognise Him?

why you dont understand it brother i write it very clear
It's not quite English
nearly...but not very clear

brother thanks alot for ur time...

i dont think so that you will ever believe on me
i don't understand a word of Urdu

i didnt say anything in urdu
no i am saying at least you are writing in English I cannot write anything in Urdu

well brother thank you....Good night
i have no idea what you are saying about your daughter and the shooting

ohhhh my God

i have no daughter

i think you will make me mad

i m didnt get marry yet

how i could have daughter
he got help from bartain government and permote his daughter that my daughter was fighting for the girls education in pakistan
you said you had a daughter right here

My Summary


This is my summary of what you said the other day

You cannot understand why such a fuss is being made of Malala because she just happened to get caught in a cross fire of police and terrorists. And instead, the father who happened to be posted in Britain used our hospital system by creating an exaggerated lie that the girl was standing up to the whole of the Taliban , and was trying to go to school and because she refused to back down the Taliban shot her. Next thing we are told in the West is that our hospitals agree to treat her and she gets a Nobel Peace prize

Life In the Order of Melchizedek II - Chris Welch's 90s Testimony

You can read in my post which catalogues Dan's Vaults about some of the things that have happened to me in the 70s and 80s while following Jesus.
In one of Amy's associated blogs I believe someone was sharing about the" ekklesia" - the called out church. In Hebrews13: 12-14 it says:




12Therefore Jesus also, ^(W)that He might sanctify the people ^(X)through His own blood, suffered ^(Y)outside the gate. 13So, let us go out to Him outside the camp, ^(Z)bearing His reproach. 14For here ^(AA)we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking ^(AB)the city which is to come.
I believe in the States you have the traditional churches and the Emerging churches. Is that correct? In England we have the emerging churches emerging from the Emerging churches which 30 years ago emerged from the traditional churches.


Perhaps this is now the same in the States. You see we have to keep emerging!!! But instead of creating new churches...here's a radical concept....why not have a structure that keeps re-positioning itself?.... That is constantly in the Spirit at least...going outside the camp....being the intercession for new believers, for new breakthroughs as we see God's Kingdom coming to earth. In Acts, after the initial breakthrough and wave of persecution, they re-positioned themselves afresh.....bracing themselves for fresh breakthroughs but also fresh persecution, and the Lord confirmed their boldness by shaking the place they were in and sending fresh anointing.

Some people have been sharing the reception they get after leaving a church. Some have been thrown out. Some felt to leave. But however they left they have been experiencing "those knowing eyes" from brothers and sisters who judge.

That was what I experienced in the late 80s. If they were looking at me. Many did not look. Many crossed the road.......But the most healing thing for me was to get on with what was laid on my heart to do. As I said to Dan, it was the time of Michael W Smith: Eye 2 Eye, Amy Grant: Lead Me On, and Whiteheart:Freedom. Talk about strength in a desert.
Apart from the Bible, what was there at this time? This music was real food. I had no one, but a gentle couple round the corner. I had left my hometown, my university...to position myself to learn more. For 10 years(1978-88), I had thrown my lot into a Christian charismatic community, where I had learned tons, including accompanying someone in New Testament style to help build a church from nearly scratch in France near Paris.
So, as many of you ex SGM-ers or whatever are experiencing.....you leave at your peril. All your existential roots are with a group you thought you'd be with or moving out in the gospel with forever! And there it is. All gone!
The only material root I still had, of any importance, was my job. Piano tuning. Oh and a mortgage on a house.

But I was finding out how to articulate what God was doing in me. No one would listen and you can see even today it is tough. How do you think George Warnock got on when he discovered it all in the early 1950s!!! I bet he had tons of set tos with Ern Baxter, when he was his personal secretary.


Some day I'll explain more about what I did during this time :the music double CD on the 3 levels, and the making of the 1989 3rd level Christianity message tape, then the writing of the "Letter to the Charismatic Movement" and how I hired a fantastic huge self-catering house to share my findings with my University friends....one of which is now my wife......so all was not lost! This was me putting my flag in the ground at this time in raw faith. Apart from a softening on the part of two other close friends....that has been it for 20 whole years.



It's just been me...living it. Slipping. Falling. Carrying on. Each time with slightly more confidence. Then getting married at the ripe age of 40...and having to learn it all again in the context of family life....oh and with stepdaughters suitably embittered by their mother not putting up with the stuff her first husband wanted to do. Normally at this stage a marriage counsellor chips in with "there are two sides"...but are there always? Sometimes there is a stand to be made and it is a tough call. I was a distant friend, right out of the picture. And slowly the Holy Spirit graciously began re-building her amongst covenant relationship type life-joints that were in her region. We don't talk like this anymore...people are so hurt by a Covenant Church vision that splintered on the rocks of time. But, I tell you friends, Covenant is coming back! In the 3rd level there is a foundation!!! His Name is the Lover of our souls...Jesus. More in a later post.
So explained in a few paragraphs, that is the external shell to my life during the 90s. But what I learned from Hebrews 13:13 was that we keep having to go outside. I will do a post about 3rd level Intercession later, but in a nutshell:
2nd level intercession is about corporately praying together as led by the Spirit...whether in prayer, praise, faith proclamations, use of tongues in warfare....maybe even prayer walks.

3rd level intercession involves you. The whole of you. No holds barred. There is no escape.
Forerunners include ofcourse Paul, who every time he was thrown into prison...another gazillion were born again...somewhere. Or in recent history Lydia Prince, explicitly obeying the Spirit to move to Jerusalem and being open to raising orphans. Or Watchman Nee willingly, but as commanded by the Spirit...re-entering a Chinese prison of his own accord in 1966.And dying there. And so on and so on.

In 1988, I received my commissioning about what became the 3rd Level message . It was in a car up the cold wintry mountains in the Welsh Snowdon range. I had absolutely no idea how you go about doing anything with that information amongst a people still drunk with the powers and possibilities of building 2nd level churches. (Churches preaching salvation by faith and baptism in the Holy Spirit...but decidedly cagey about a whole host of the rest of New Testament doctrine. - For example Paul's simple acid test....."I came to see if I could find Christ crucified amongst you." " What, is that an experience? I thought it was a Matt Redman song!")



I love Matt Redman's songs, by the way. I love my songs too! But just singing was not what St Paul was asking.
So by around 1990 I had begun an intercessory path. But while the big project of the last 20 years has been going on, I became aware that I was on a little 4 year one from 1990 - 4.



Christian Media - Whether the paucity in the Uk of Christian media and music was impressed upon me so heavily, because all my friends had scarpered...and there was little in the way of input? Most was coming from the American Contemporary Christian Music scene as I have already mentioned. Then we learned that United Christian Broadcasters Northern Ireland had been given a MW radio frequency from an old, now defunct Moscow propaganda radio station and was blanketing the UK with the gospel, and Christian programming. You should know that the UK had developed strong misgivings over Christian TV and radio media as practiced by Americans. This had been in no way helped through the various scandals that had just come to light concerning 2 American evangelists.

So, in their wisdom, the UK Government banned UK wide Christian programming, whether by radio or TV. They would argue that various ITV and BBC religious programmes would supply those interested in these type of things. There is a fundamental difference however between the histories of the USA and England to this point. England effectively pushed out of this land adherents to a Christian faith that included an internal confirmation of second birth...or being born again. For the sake of acquiring freedom to take the Bible at its Word, huge numbers left our land in the early years of pioneering the new nation across the pond. Various freedoms are enshrined in USA Law that are not included in our laws. Nevertheless we enjoy great freedom here until the State get involved with religious matters. The Anglican Church with both its good and bad points, are effectively de facto the foundation of religious life here. Unlike the Catholic influence in history in European nations, we have enjoyed the reading of the whole Bible in our own tongue . This has only recently been the case in the Catholic Church since the ruling of Vatican II in the 60s.

But many of the encrustations of centuries of what is actually Biblical rebellion have passed into the Anglican Church. Religious heirarchies are not Biblical. Geographical heirarchies are not Biblical. One man ministry is not Biblical . Infant baptism is not Biblical. A church that neither recognises rebirth, nor Baptism of the Spirit with miraculous giftings as the normative behaviour of a Christian is not Biblical.Ministries that do not emerge over time by recognising the Holy Spirit anointing on a believer...are not Biblical.....indeed so much is sick about the Anglican Church from its internal structure, to its non-Biblical systems of running services...is it any wonder that God has begun the other way round with churches such as Chorleywood and Holy Trinity Brompton, by first giving the members a proper Christian experience, then working out from this point to discovering how to run church life? Yet, up to this week at least they still remain successful Anglican Churches.
Back to media. UCB,the broadcasters mentioned above, soon had their mediumwave frequency, which had been given them by the Russians, taken by the UK Government. This was then sold on to the highest bidder. This raises questions like...when somebody overseas gives you their frequency...does any Government own the right to that frequency...by virtue of the frequency being broadcast across their airspace. Under that rule...how does the BBC get away with broadcasting the World Service across closed nations? Is this a case where the UK is acting like the USA does in claiming the higher ground. On whose authority? It is certainly not the unanimous verdict from all the other nations..... This is where questions regarding democracy come into play. Does anybody out there understand radio licensing law?
Anyway,the Kingdom is not democratic. The clue is in the name. (More another day perhaps.)

So having UCB removed as a Life source was a big thing for me...and I felt it very keenly. This moved from being a niggle to a Spirit burden regarding the Christian message in Britain. I used to belabour my tuning clients, Christian and non-Christian. Sometimes it slipped into a petty anger, but overall I felt the full force of what was going on....or rather what wasn't going on in Britain. In the USA there was a whole raft of Christian media. A full selection of Christian contemporary musicians. What was it like in England? Well the musician who worked with me on my double CD was one of only a handful of full-time Christian musicians...and after producing with me, tried his hand in America, helped by the fact that his wife was American.

UCB sent out regular newsletters detailing their efforts with media lawyers. On a couple of occasions I organised fasting and prayer weekends with the handful that were talking to me, in Bucks and Hants. We prayed. We read the newsletter. The news got worse. We prayed.
It was like a lead weight in my stomach. Romans 8:26"groaning too deep for words".On and off this continued for around 4 years.

The first major breakthrough was the setting up of PremierChristian Radio around London. There was a legal doorway left open in the 1990s UK media laws. Nationwide coverage was prohibited, but certain cities could apply for local licences.
The most 3rd level material on Premier comes through Colin Urquart, and also recorded messages of Witness Lee (a Watchman Nee contemporary). Can you imagine the frustration of living in a country where the most 3rd level stuff you will ever here in Britain cuts out at Guildford, halfway to the south coast?

In case I forget later I want to highlight the main point in this post: there are 2 levels at which intercession occurs.
Here I am using "levels" in simple English usage. The surface level means we see a problem and we do whatever lies to hand to address this problem. This is according to our means, where we live and our general level of vision. I am a Brit, and we suffer with a little and insular vision. Thankfully, I as most reading this blog are Christians or maybe about to be Christians. And Christians have the Spirit of Christ on their insides...which gets fully released in the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
And the Spirit of Christ thinks and groans through us on a very much larger scale...Global scale...Kingdom scale.

So the point of this post ,which is the same as this whole blog is
not to make me look good
nor is it for me to be self-effacingly nauseating and say "Oh it's nothing really!"

no...it is to say, this is how the Kingdom works...like it or lump it...and the same Jesus that is in me or Rob Rufus or Mark Stibbe, or a born-again 5 year-old...is the same Jesus in you.
So at the surface level...we do what is in our hands to do. But in our spirit the Almighty power of God that knows no limits is labouring to achieve "the greater than we can ask or think".

Watch this!

So, at the surface level, the great Chris Welch with the British vision of a gnat says...there's no Christian TV, no Christian radio...I know, I'll create a video library of teaching . People will join for the fee of one video (VHS days) then pay a modicum £1 or so for each borrowed tape to maintain and extend the library. Because Morris Cerullo's events contain at any time 15 or so of the top current anointed teachers, I bought whole sets of his events. I bought Roberts Liardon's great Generals series. And so on. I think about 5 people ever joined. But I enjoyed the messages anyway.

This is what God did.
This has to be the weirdest Christian meeting in history. Neither party knew what it was about,
perhaps they still don't. I know what I believe.

I have, in 26 years, only advertised pianos in a national paper about twice. This was before Google and web business! A young couple in Bromley saw my ad for a grand, visited my house and arranged to buy it 3 months later in September. This was going to be after one final concert tour in South Africa playing keyboard with Blondie. This would provide the money.

September came. The piano stood there. They had lost my details. They never bought the piano.The whole thing was a non-event.
Except it wasn't
I know all the details...because I met them again...at a Kenneth Copeland Believer'sConference in Bournemouth. On the stage.

In my house, we'd ascertained we were all Christians. We spent an hour together sharing stuff...walking down to Emsworth beach(See picture above). I played them the Joel 2 track on my CD. The lady said"Sounds just like Dad's prophecies". I explained a bit about what I was doing and my discoveries to do with the 3rd Level. They, like most, thought it was strange I was shut away on my own restoring pianos. They'd just arrived in Britain. They didn't really know why. God had told them to sell everything and they'd just come from South Africa. They just had some sort of feeling about reaching young people in Britain. They'd attached themselves as youth evangelists to a lively church in Bromley. They didn't know what I'd been carrying for 4 years. Neither they, nor I knew of their future...so I ofcourse never felt it relevant to share my past 4 years.
The weirdest meeting in history.
At least God told Simeon that it was Jesus the Messiah Luke 2:25
We just all gawped at one another....and anyway they were supposedly buying a piano!

So I see them a few months later and they are the first people in England, let alone Europe to set up a Christian TV Station. (The UK had not included Sattellite channels in their legislation)
And the couple.... they are Rory and Wendy Alec of God TV. And the rest is in Wendy's book.

Notice God never commissioned English saints for this task. He knows better!
Notice , apart from Jackie Pullinger....God never commissioned an Englishman to pioneer a great church in Hong Kong. He's using Rob Rufus. God knows better! They're all South African!
This a shame England! How long have you had the gospel? Only 2000 years! What kind of Christianity do you specialise in? First-level or sub zero level Christianity! At least the States specialises in 1st and 2nd level Christianity!

And you can see why God used Rory and Wendy and not the great Chris Welch video library! He has a world to win! It's a close call...eh!
But laughing aside, while I don't trust my petty-minded British small faith vision....I do trust the mighty Spirit within me to keep me connected to the Melchizedek order!

Think about it! I was in exile. I was not in a church during this period. Apart from tuning customers who did I see?A few close friends who had softened to me. And God brought Rory and Wendy...before even they knew what they were doing in England to MY little house...to show me what I'd been connecting to in the Spirit!
There's only 70 million others who could have responded to that grandpiano ad! And the whole piano thing turned out bogus anyway!!! I mean, saints...come on!!! This stuff's real isn't it?
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