Saints, Not Sinners No Condemnation: Romans 8:1 By Fred Pruitt

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In Romans 8:1 Paul reaches critical mass. This little, innocuous, so well-used term, “no condemnation,” is like the great flash of light that precedes everything else in a nuclear detonation.

“No condemnation” is pure light out of heaven, exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think. Each one of us in some degree knows this condemnation. This is far more than putting ourselves under a guilt trip, or a sort of “Christian” negative self image. 

This condemnation is from deeper sources than our own psychology or past behaviors.

It has nothing to do with anything about ourselves as we might think. 

It has nothing to do, for instance, with whether we are self-confident or self-doubting.

A confident person knows this condemnation as much as a timid person. We are not more condemned if we have made many more bad choices than others who have not made the same choices. Likewise, if we have made very few so called bad choices, we are not spared any measure of this condemnation. All of us share it in common measure. It is the inheritance we have been born into.  

“Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation…” Rom 5:18a  

The choice in the Garden was not about good and evil, or right and wrong. That is what the whole world lives in, but good and evil was not what the choice was about. It was about life and death. 

When they took the fruit, which was something to make them “wise as gods,” they chose death (having been warned beforehand), and immediately there appeared on the scene the precursor and continual reminder of death – condemnation, which has hounded all our heels ever since.

It is like a sense of impending doom, that I must hide, protect, hunker down, make boundaries, declare territories, to ward off certain death as long as is possible. Now it is very common in the beginning to get the gospel mixed up with right and wrong actions and thoughts, morals, world viewpoints, etc. 

We even get it mixed up with our up and down feelings, all of which ultimately become the wrong track. But it’s a wrong track which brings us here to this brink where great light is beginning to flood in as we stand ready to go into God's rest.

Now this condemnation, which means a continual sentence of death hanging over our heads, is the natural outcome of living by the law, of living by “knowing good and evil.” 

The law as outer precepts is impersonal. It has no mercy or grace. That is what happened with Adam and Eve. As soon as they partook of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, seeking something they saw outside themselves, which they were tricked into taking into themselves in order to become wise as gods, they instead instantly knew death and fear – condemnation! But we have been learning that now in the Cross we have been delivered from the law. 

Romans seven is about finding out that we cannot approach God by that path. The reason we cannot approach God down this road is because the law, though both inwardly and outwardly representative of Him, still is, in a sense, “one step removed” from God. It is not He Himself. 

The Law expresses the nature of God, yet it is not God. There simply is no set of standards that could be written, much less applied and obeyed, that could possibly equalize the created with the Creator. Paul said the law, “was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.” (Gal 3:19, 20) In other words, the law is separation. 

Under the law we are one step removed from God and always remain so. 

Who is sufficient for these things? 

The vast majority of the Church of Christ through the centuries has been stuck right here in this limbo. 

We cannot keep ourselves from sin,

and cannot propel ourselves into the fullness of spiritual life.

The veil that divides us (condemnation – Gen 3:6-10) continually remains. The veil is there because of the law and the flesh which tries to keep the law. The law presupposes the separate self to obey it. And that self, which in its false separateness can only hear the law as if it is coming from outside itself, is bound to both the demands of the law and to the separateness in which to do them. The law demands that the person fulfill precepts which are descriptions of God’s own life as He is. In order to do that one would have to either be like God, or else be God. 

The first, to be “like Him,” is impossible, even if we were to have, as we say, “His help.” One cannot recreate or imitate the Eternal. It’s the most absurd thought that ever came into the temporal universe. We’ve all tried that. 

The second, to “Be Him” is likewise impossible, but still the only recourse left after we exhaust the first. Here we find our final answer. We have found to the uttermost we cannot be like Him, and we certainly know we cannot BE Him, but now we see that Christ has come into us to be US! Not to make me be “like” Him, but He has come to live in “me” to be “me,” and in “you” to be “you.”He and I, one person together. 

And this is where our NO condemnation takes form in us. We’ve grown up all our lives knowing nothing but this condemnation. If others didn’t put it on us then we put it on ourselves. We know our guilt and we know what we deserve and now this Romans seven has brought it all sharply into focus. But here we find Paul at the end of Romans seven, finally coming to the resolution of his struggle, like a slow train, steadily getting there.

He has now taken us to the final hump, where he sees two operations, one the law of sin and death, or the law of the flesh, and the other the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. This is an important juncture here, and the absolute crux of the matter. On one hand Paul seems to be saying that he is operating both laws simultaneously, walking in his flesh according to the flesh, and at the same time in his spirit walking according to the spirit. 

This seems a weak solution, since it still leaves him very much a double person all his days. 

Or on the other hand, Paul seems to be saying that he walks one way one moment – when he minds the flesh he walks according to the flesh – and another way another moment – when he minds the spirit he walks according to the Spirit. But how do we do that? I thought we’d gotten out of that whole “effort” thing. 

And we seem to be left there holding just that bag as we close out Romans seven. The problem seems to be at this point, if we were left just here, is that the solution is a sort of limbo, and the limbo is because we don’t really know which way this is going to go. But this “limbo” is really the final nail in the coffin of this self that thinks it is something in itself and has some capability to now operate the life of the Spirit. 

Who is sufficient for these things? The vast majority of the Church of Christ through the centuries has been stuck right here in this limbo. We cannot keep ourselves from sin, and cannot propel ourselves into the fullness of spiritual life. 

We seem perpetually to be “two,” not just between ourselves and God, but between our “flesh” self and our “spirit” self, or sin nature and righteousness nature, or however anyone describes it. The limbo is, now that we have realized this world-destroying truth about ourselves, we have not yet come to know fully the One with Whom we have to do, and having not yet come to know Him as He is, we have no framework from which to say or believe that we will ever be anything but this two-sided person.

There must be a rescue from outside ourselves to solve this. It is a scale-dropping revelation to see we are nothing in ourselves, and to see from an observer’s point of view, opening in our consciousness by the Spirit, how with the flesh we walk in the law of sin and death, and with the “mind” we walk according to the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

O how wonderful! Praise God, that’s how it is, and now we see it. 

But wait! What’s next? There must be more to this than knowing that fact, glorious as that is. Unless something further comes, in which this continual inescapable twoness (between God and myself and between myself and myself) is supplanted by a certain wholeness and eternal (continuous) oneness, I’m still stuck, because what I’ve learned through this valley of self-effort the Lord has taken me through, is that I can do nothing of myself. 

If that is so, then I likewise cannot operate the life of the Spirit, or by anything I know to do or say, keep myself in it. No, not ever! 

The conscious life of the Spirit begins when the Spirit opens our consciousness to the fact that it is forever, “Not I, but He,” and, “the Son can do nothing of Himself … the Father that dwells in me, He does the works!” The life of the Spirit is always operated by the Spirit, so that we are forever in weakness as the lambs of God. And it is only through this final hump here, which on one side perpetually appears as if we are two, sometimes flesh and sometimes spirit, and through this revelation which comes first as this blinding flash of NO CONDEMNATION that blots out everything else, we come through this portal onto the other side, where we know Christ and ourselves joined as one spirit, so that the life we are now living is Christ, and that He has now appeared here in our form to be in us our All, in all. 

We have gone finally now from the law, i.e., knowing “about” God, as if God is an object we could study and analyze, but now having gone over this hump, we come into knowing God, not as an “over there” person we can look at and touch, but as being mixed in union and oneness in that union through Jesus, so that inwardly we now know that we living is He living. One person. 

All our lives God has spoken to us and in us in various ways, drawing us to Himself in order to reveal the Son in us. Every moment God’s true heart has been saying to us, “You are my beloved son,” even if for years of our lives we could not hear the voice. But all that time He has unfailingly, little by little, in every circumstance and event of our lives, been perfectly drawing us into Himself in order to reveal in us His love. 

And now here, as we are coming into this life that is Christ’s LIFE being lived out and expressed in the world through and AS our humanity, the greatest shockwave ever hits our mortality, swallowing it up into life, as we for the first time hear in ourselves, the Word which God has eternally been saying of us, 

“You are released from death, 

and have passed forever into my Life. 

You may rest from your labors in Me, 

knowing that I will only be in you life everlasting.”

Suddenly everything in the universe turns around and changes. The music changes keys. You have found favor! There is One Who sees you and delights in you! How could that be for one such as I? Only God knows, but here you are, now delivered from the law, now delivered from the self-efforts of a falsely independent self and all its tricks and foibles, now delivered by great wonders out of darkness into light, here right now you are, called and chosen of God, to bear His name and light in fear and trembling into the world.

The handwriting of ordinances, which was against us, has been removed, nailed to His cross, and with it the condemnation it brought us all our lives has likewise gone back into the pit from which it came. 

And the word of NO condemnation is the portal, the announcement, of that which is to come, because condemnation is that last little bit that has been about “me,” and from now on we move away from “me” in the life of the Spirit. As we become settled in who we are – Christ living as us – we move into an entirely “for others” life, out of the spontaneity of the Spirit who keeps all these things happening. We no longer accept any such thing as "condemnation" because we are He living as us, who is always the "beloved Son," in whom the Father is always pleased. Next: We try to make it to Romans 8:2 and maybe beyond in our next discussion of “Saints, Not Sinners

FOT 14: "I create Jerusalem a rejoicing and her people a joy"

I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.     Isaiah 65:18

we were like those that dream, our mouths were filled with laughter ...     Psalm 126 

 you shall rejoice in your feast,(Tabernacles Feast) you and your son and your daughter ......
the stranger/foreigner and the orphan and the widow who are in your towns.   Deuteronomy 16:14

His city is such a pleasant place.
   It brings joy to people from around the world.
Psalm 48:2 ERV
 

 The JOY of the Lord is your strength  Nehemiah 8:10

The LORD is happy with his people.
   He did a wonderful thing for his humble people.
   He saved them!
 Let his followers rejoice in this victory!
   Let them sing for joy, even in their beds! Psalm149

 For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame,considering it as nothing and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 
Hebrews 12:2
Up to now you have asked nothing in my name; ask now, and you will receive, that your joy may be overflowing.John 16 PHILLIPS

“And now I come to you(Father) and I say these things in the world that these men may find my joy completed in themselves. John 17   PHILLIPS

“Sing, barren woman,
   you who never bore a child;
burst into song, shout for joy,
   you who were never in labor;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
   than of her who has a husband,”
            says the LORD.   Isaiah 54:1  NIV


Feast of Tabernacles - George H. Warnock 1952

CHAPTER 9 - TABERNACLES - THE FEAST OF JOY

And thou shalt rejoice in thy feast, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within thy gates" (Deut. 16:14).

Israel continued to live in peace and prosperity as long as they obeyed God and walked in His ways. But with disobedience came drought and famine and depression--and the Feast of Tabernacles ceased to have any real meaning to them. It is just as true with the Church of Christ. 

And though the Church as a Body has never really observed this Feast, there were nevertheless periods in her early history when she had a foretaste and an earnest of its glory. Our testimony is therefore that of Joel:

"The field is wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn is wasted; the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth. Be ye ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field is perished. The vine is dried up, the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men" (Joel 1:10-12).

The new wine, the corn, the oil, the wheat, the barley, the palm, the apple: all these speak of the abundance of spiritual blessings and the joy which they impart to the saints. And because of the spiritual drought in the Church: "Joy is withered away..."

THE BLIGHT OF BABYLON

This hilarity of our modern churches is not the joy of the Holy Ghost. In most cases it is the song of Babylon. In other words, it is an attempt of the enemy to lull the saints to sleep and to cause them to forget their heritage in the Spirit. By Babylon we mean what it meant to Israel; bondage in a strange land. 

When Israel walked in disobedience they lost their glory, their beautiful temple, their place of worship, their prominence as a nation and kingdom. And when the Church of Christ walked in disobedience, she too lost her glory, her beautiful temple was destroyed, and from her lofty position as a "holy nation" and a "royal priesthood" she degenerated into a nation of slaves and bondservants. Her people were taken captive at the hands of the world, the flesh, and the Devil--and her joy departed.

And so the Babylonians came to the children of Israel in their captivity, and said unto them, "Sing us one of the songs of Zion." Perhaps many of them consented. The Church, likewise, has been too willing to accommodate the world in this manner, and to partake of her false joy. But the godly remnant in Israel refused to do so, because they knew they had nothing to sing about. "By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion..." How could they rejoice as they contemplated the desolation of their beautiful temple and city? "How shall we sing the Lord's song in a strange land?" was their reply. (See Ps. 137).

We ought to have been mourning and howling for the desolations wrought in the Church, instead of trying to generate a false joy in our midst. And yet this continues unto this very hour: the world is invited to come and hear "one of the songs of Zion." You may read in the advertisements in the "church" section of the newspapers about good orchestras... lively singing... so-and-so will play the sleighbells, or anything else that might produce a tune. Why not? they would argue. Get the sinners out to "church" and then preach the Gospel to them. But "How shall we sing the Lord's song in a strange land?" Far better that the Church should mourn and howl before God, and her priests be clothed in sackcloth and sit in ashes.

Israel did not have one percent of the glory that the Church had in the beginning, and yet her people expressed far more sorrow and repentance in their desolation than we have in ours. "The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground, and keep silence: they have cast up dust upon their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth: the virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground. Mine eyes do fail with tears, my bowels are troubled, my liver is poured upon the earth, for the destruction of the daughter of my people; because the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city. They say to their mothers, Where is corn and wine?" (Lam. 2:10-12).

Where is corn and wine? Where is purity of thought and conduct? Where is holiness of life, and separation from the world and its charms? Where is victory over sinful habits, freedom from covetousness, from lying and falsehood, from malice and bitterness? Where is the desire to pray and seek God? To intercede on behalf of others? To deliver those who are held captive by Satan, and set the oppressed free? Where is the mind of Christ, the life that is hid with Christ in God? Where is corn and wine?

But Babylon has been good to us; so good, in fact, that we are one with them, participating in her pleasures, her politics, her wars, her earthly programs, her strife, and her religious systems. Consequently, as it was with Israel, so it is with the Church; as the cry goes forth in this hour for separation from the world and its systems, there is dismay. God says, "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues" (Rev. 18:4). Babylon means "Confusion." It speaks of this whole world-system, political as well as religious. But we have been utterly deceived by her veneer and her charm, not realizing that "her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities" (Rev. 18:5).

In her there is no good thing. Satan is "prince of the power of the air," and "god of this world,"--and the whole world-system is anti-God and anti-Christ. Her doom is sealed. "Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit..." (Rev. 18:2). 

"The abundance of her delicacies" have deceived all nations, including the majority of God's people. "She hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously," and all nations of the earth have "committed fornication and lived deliciously with her" (Rev. 18:9). 

Has the Church of Jesus Christ not followed hand in hand with the course of this world for centuries, befriended her in all her devilish programs, and lived as her captive slaves? "Ye adulterers and adulteresses," says the apostle James, "Know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God?" (Jas. 4:4).

But what else could we do? We were captives in a strange land, with no power to deliver ourselves. However, the cry goes forth, "Escape from Babylon..." Let the Church arise from the dust and shake herself, and return unto her land and Temple, even "Zion, the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem." And God will abundantly pardon, and give grace to re-establish the praise, the worship, in the Temple of the once-glorious Church.

THE LORD TURNETH OUR CAPTIVITY

With the turning of the captivity of the Church, joy is once again being restored, even the joy of the Holy Ghost. Songs of Zion can be heard once again in the congregation of the saints, and the Choir of Praise has been restored to the Church. Singing in the Spirit is one sure evidence that Zion's captivity is coming to an end. Says Paul, "Teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord" (Col. 3:16). Surely it is significant that Psalm 126 has now been restored by the Spirit, music included:

"When the Lord turned again the captivity of Zion,
We were like them that dream.
Then was our mouth filled with laughter,
And our tongue with singing:
Then said they among the heathen,
The Lord hath done great things for them.

The Lord hath done great things for us;
Whereof we are glad.
Turn again our captivity, O Lord,
As the streams in the south.
They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed,
Shall doubtless come again,
Shall doubtless come again,
Shall doubtless come again with rejoicing,
Bringing his sheaves with him."

This, then, is a time for rejoicing. "Be ye glad and rejoice forever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying" (Isa. 65:18, 19). A faithful remnant are returning from the captivity to raise again the walls of Jerusalem and restore the gates of Zion. And God is in the midst of her to bless and to impart the joy of the Holy Ghost.

Jesus Ministry "seemed"to totally fail - A Brief History of 3rd level Church

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  Jesus said on the night before He died....All of you will desert Me........His ministry seemed to totally fail.....no suave looks..... no building or feeding schemes left......He even had no clothes left to preserve some form of image.........
  Yet in giving up every part of His image of natural birth and means, He successfully redeemed the Image and likeness of God in us .....
  Mission Impossible Complete !
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• • Colin Lagerwall The thing with image....when we know the image and likeness of God in us, any 'image' outside of this fades in comparison....so if I have much or little, fast cars or a bicycle, a suit or just shorts and sandals (shorts and sandals please :), my 'image' is not affected because His glory in me (who I am) is the real deal...II can enjoy the others, but they are not my image, just something I can enjoy if I want to..
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    Chris Welch As He is so are we in the world. If Jesus' ministry fell apart like this (but Hey,the Holy Spirit put it together again) then we shouldn't be surprised if our "ministry" looks at times no different.Ed Miller said,"Beware the church that looks great.There is probably nothing happening."
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    Chris Welch Folks,the "third level message" at first appearances to outsiders appears like DOOM. "Best stay clear". Think about it, the first ever appearance of the third level message on earth was in John 6. Everything had been trundling along quite happily in Jesus ministry, give or take Nazareth.He'd been functioning pretty Benny Hinn like, gathering crowds and closer disciples, on the shores of Galilee, with strong accompanying miracles. Then in John 6 He introduces the third level message for the first time..."Ummmm....you all know that you do have to eat my flesh, and drink my blood , right?" You couldn't see anything for clouds of dust. After a while the air cleared and there were just 12, just 12 left.Not even enough for a sattellite TV show!
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    Chris Welch The next big presentation, kind of shoe horned in before Jesus had to leave was in John's chapters 13 through 17 in the Upper Room. Within 12 hours His whole ministry had blown apart, and He was being carted off to a false trial and death. So how is the third level message looking so far? have we got tons of advertisers queuing up for placing ads in the intermission? Nope. Just clouds of dust. We move to England. 1980. Ed Miller. Conference of Two related UK churches: Emsworth and Brentwood. Ed starts to lay out the 3rd level (he didn't use that phrase,neither did Jesus.Jesus was far more insensitive.His term sounded like cannibalism.) In the middle of the conference a demon spirit gets one of our "members" to confess to something "on behalf of our pastor" who had made the innocent remark that Dr Michael Reid used to be a policeman, so he was perhaps a bit more Law based in his approach to things. Well in the mouth of the woman it didnt sound like this, it sounded like Jack The Ripper's fourth murder. The two churches blasted apart, and Ed nolonger visited either much after this.Are you getting the picture?
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    Chris Welch ‎1980 Part Two. Norman Grubb goes to Romford. he starts sharing the third level. Maurice Smith and a load of others pick it up. Maurice is led to do something a bit radical, which nobody else believes is God. Next thing, he is ostracised from what were then some of the most cutting edge churches in Britain. Is anyone catching this?
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    Chris Welch ‎1980 Part Three. Sam Fife and the multitude of brethren that ministered alongside him, that both Daniel Yordy and I know, held conferences in a "3rd level" community in Colden Common near Southampton. Great conference.I received so much in my spirit.Some of the London people I have told you about, namely John Noble, were there. But totally unimpressed. As if to confirm "their Holy Spirit discernment", within a very short while, days or weeks, the whole community "blew skyhigh" with incredibly bitter fall-out, since all had contributed much financially, but only a few received any money from the proceeds. This just confirmed everything to Tony Morton's Southampton "Apostolic pyramid", that the third level was in fact total baloney.And they bought the community house for their own network school. What I would say to everyone reading scripture, and everyone honestly pursuing Jesus....
  • "Look beneath the foliage." 
  • "Look after the dustcloud has cleared, for the 12 left." 
  • "Understand that the 3rd level message is both the message of the Cross at our core, and ACTUALLY the Cross as the message is then worked out. " In other words it sets in process spiritual definition that just won't look nice and happy clappy....but the end result is fresh spiritual cycles of reproduced Jesus Christs going around bringing in fresh harvests.

We are considered worthy....don't accept the devil's own baloney.

I am no dustbin

There is a kind of thread here....thrown together from various notes on Facebook today. It's getting very similar to meetings run in the Holy Spirit, but this ofcourse comes live out of the hearts of believers all over the world, not one single meeting in a geographical area.


Andre Rabe - IMAGINEThere is no such thing as the original and complete Word of God in written form! The only original Word is what John wrote about in 1 John 1:1: “In the beginning was the Word”. This Word is unwritten and unspoken … and its ultimate destiny was not a book or a religion or an institution, but flesh! The most accurate translation happened when the Word became flesh in Christ Jesus.

In every religion and philosophy, word remains word – religion remains a theory and philosophy remains a guess. But in Jesus Christ, the Word is made flesh, reality is revealed – God’s thought is concluded in human life. The ultimate destiny of the Word, was never a doctrine or an institution, but the image and likeness of God displayed in human life!

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Pleroma Class yday, the bible study I hold for uni students which is what I consider ministry. I taught yday on the love of God and how we deserved it cos He made us and he made us beautiful and to be desired so he desired us and used Jesus to get us back. Twas so revolutionary to the we are unworthy but he makes us worthy. No we have never been unworthy. He made us by the creation worthy of all he spent on us. See faith rising. U deserve all u get from God. He loves us. Amidst other things but I jus wanted to share that for now! I love u all mystery revealed. U all rock. I was called a heretic by a man of God here and it moved me that one could be so closed minded cos he had achieved a lot in ministry...indeed ministry is being open to receive from Jesus no matter who is speaking and I ma...de a mental note never to be so big that I would ignore glaring truths of the word cos of the vessel being used to share it is younger or not as experienced as me. God's word trumps our experiences...I was told abt those who's given their lives for the gospel cos of the impending condemnation on men's live and how it would seem wasted if what I was teaching is true and he was sure I wasn't(okay this was his member talking not him)she reported me to her pastor.I asked what mattered more,the llife they had given for the gospel or Jesus' life that he gave for the saalvation of the world. And yet we sing that to live is Christ. What matters more? If I found that out that I missed it wouldn't it be better to turn around than get angry at Eramoh for saying and telling the truth? I'm sure u know the answer. I also told them that God was more interested in dem knowing his love than in their service(now, this was to my group not to pastor know-it-all!)See more
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    Chris Welch Part of the Fall was disobedience,part of the Fall was a setup.A God-allowed setup, so that we would find grace super abundantly.But a setup nonetheless.The devil never told us more than 10% of the deal, because he is a con merchant , a liar.I am absolutely not going to take the rap for being his container,because at no point in the deal did he mention that. At no point did he say in his sales pitch that taking that fruit meant that I would nolonger be a container for God, but a container for a sin spirit.Then, he makes me feel terminally ashamed....but only a part of it was ever my shame...the bulk of the shame I feel is the devil's own eternal shame that he just lumbered me with by moving in.The first great law of MK Mindcontrol(see Google) as used by the devil, is to get the subject involved in something which they feel as though they instigated and let them carry the full shame so they never feel they can turn to God.Well Adam never instigated the "permanent container" for the devil bit of the deal, that bit was snuck in in the small print.In choosing Christ, I am choosing to be a container for my original indweller/owner, and being born again means you cannot contain both....AND THAT IS IN THE LARGE PRINT right here: Galations 2:20 from the original Greek
    "with Christ I have been crucified, and live no more do I, and Christ doth live in me; and that which I now live in the flesh -- in the faith I live of the Son of God,"
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OUR SINGLE MIND by RICH NOVEK
“For who has known the “Mind of the Lord” that he may instruct him?” But we have the…Mind of Christ.(I Corinthians 2:16)
The “human” container was specifically designed by God to be His perfect Dwelling Place!
“For it is God which worketh IN you both to will and to do (work) of His good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13)
It is pleasing to God for Him to dwell IN us, His chosen temple, the place where His Spirit does all of the work!  “Taking each thought captive” and “taking no thought for tomorrow” are evidence of the wonder of who He created us to be and our only True purpose! (II Corinthians 10:5, Mathew 6:34)
We are NOT schizophrenic!
We do not have two minds!
We just need to listen to our brother James:
But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.  That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord.  Such a person is “double-minded” and unstable in all they do.(James 1:6-8)
By believing the “two mind” lie, the only thing the believer can look forward to is a life of total instability, spiritual and otherwise!
We cannot think His thoughts and our own thoughts!  It is an impossibility!  We were not designed to “see” more than One, any more than we can “serve” more than One!
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be “Single“, thy whole body shall be full of light.  But if thine eye be evil (seeing more than God), thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is IN thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!  “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. (Mathew 6:22-24)
This passage is NOT about serving money, as much as it is about seeing and serving more than One!  This is Jesus reminding us of WHO we are, and HOW and WHY we were created!
Now take a look at the next passage of scripture in Mathew:
Therefore I say unto you, take NO THOUGHT for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? (Mathew 6:25)
The reason why we no longer have to walk in anxiety concerning our life, is because we are NOW completely finished trying to figure out what it is we are doing, or should be doing!  We have His Mind, the same Mind that was  filled only with His Father’s thoughts!
After His 40 day trek into the wilderness, Satan came before Jesus, tempting Him to think His own thoughts, and do His own works, but He refused!
“I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing IN Me; (John 14:30)
You have Nothing IN Me!
And the reason?  Because He was filled with His Father!  In the exact same way we are NOW filled with His dear Son!
We have His Mind and only His Mind!
And because we are “Single” minded, we no longer need to struggle or strive in trying to figure out how to live the Christian life!  There is only One who can live the Christian Life, Christ Himself!
Only God Only Now is the One able to live our His own life through us, His chosen temples, branches, and vessels!
By faith we simply step into the flow NOW already prepared for the people of God, His marvelous Rest!  And because we have His Mind, we are able to enter into His Rest!  Even though we may not know or believe this to be true, it is His thoughts alone that now make up our life!
Jesus Himself never had even one independent thought concerning His own self preservation!  So if it is God who is working IN us, then what are we to do we do while He works?
We simply Rest IN His finished work!  He works and we Rest!
And if you want further evidence, just take a look at our modern day stress filled lives.  It is documented fact that around 90 percent of the hospital beds are filled because of stress, or could we say for those who refuse to enter into this already prepared Rest!
He has appointed another day calling it “Today!”  Today if you hear His voice (because you have His Mind) do not harden your hearts…(toward the truth of who you are IN Him and who He is IN you!) (Hebrews 4:7)
“The steadfast of (His Single) Mind You will keep IN perfect peace, because he trusts IN You.(Isaiah 26:3)

The Negative Spiritual Power of Mixture Part Four - The NOW Antidote to Mixture

Sin only has it's ability to attach itself to a False Identity....if we want sin to perpetuate in this world with all it's ugliness of greed and separation, it's us and them mentality with all it's filthy stench of inferiority and superiority inducing attitudes, then we should carry on with identifying ourselves (who we perceive ourselves to be) with a lie.....
To place 'confidence in the flesh' is not so much about your natural abilities, it is primarily about identity......placing confidence in an identity formed by your natural existence will produce both arrogance and inferiority, and they both stink as filthy rags and will repel those around you....yet knowing your true being, which existed in love before your natural birth, has such a powerful confidence with absolutely no trace of arrogance, and the fragrance emanating from this 'knowing' carries a recognition and remembrance to those around you of their own true being which was Created in Love..... Colin Lagerwall

REAL LOVE IS NOW

Real love also cannot centre itself in Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil stuff. or put another way , real love only works NOW. Our plans are for the future.Or our perceptions are about how the past was. But LOVE is NOW, and that operates f...rom a different place right within us. I've never seen that so forcefully here this morning: http://www.holdingonloosely.com/deep-calls-to-deep/
With Love at the centre we are free to do all. Living in the control of our own perceptions it actually is impossible to experience NOW, we're too much in the future in worry, or too much in the past in regret or pride. Now it's one thing to teach this stuff, it's quite another to gather together and live there as ONE. So for this reason was the Holy Spirit given so that we would know how (in the Spirit) to maintain the unity of the Spirit until we arrive to the unity of the faith.The Holy Spirit builds the landing strip as more and more Kingdom comes into land.Here I speak of "outer enduring manifestation" or unity of faith, rather than what Jesus plunged us into which was unity of Spirit. Not by might, nor by power but by my Spirit expresses the language by which this is accomplished. The language of the Spirit is the language of the Tabernacle and the Feasts, but not the Jewish outer forms, the inner corporate experience of the Book of Hebrews Melchizedek order. The reason Paul wrote : I cannot speak much of this now, was that it is on a "timing release". People in the Pentecostal revelation are having that stage revealed to them, subjects to do with the Holiest Place and Jesus living as us are at that time impossible to comprehend. But then the Body grows, and the Holy Spirit releases more according to His heavenly language. Chris Welch

"Jesus said to Martha: Your brother shall rise again. Martha replied: I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said to her: I AM Myself the Resurrection and the Life." So, we don't wait for "the last days" or "the final hour" to come, for the time HAS fully come. We are just exploring the promised land (Jesus) we are already IN.   Andrea Garzón

He is in this present moment, and has forever been “The “NOW” God! His name is I AM, it’s not I WAS, or I WILL BE! (Exodus 3:14) He is called THE EVER PRESENT HELP in time of trouble! (Psalm 46:1) He is the ETERNAL GOD! (Deuteronomy 33:27) He is Not the God who lives in the illusionary boundaries of TIME! There is NO TIME IN HIM! (II Peter 3:8)

As Linda and I were praying, God said to Linda, our looking up is a symbolism of looking for the “God up there”, for the God who is separated from us and who lives in the FUTURE!

"Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here LOOKING INTO THE SKY? This SAME JESUS, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in THE SAME WAY you have seen Him go into heaven." (Acts 1:11)

How have we interpreted this passage in modern times? This SAME JESUS will come back again in the SAME WAY! This Jesus, who only does what He sees His Father doing, will ALWAYS manifest himself in the exact SAME WAY! Since He is the SAME Yesterday, Today, and Forever, and the ONE on whom we have our gaze FIXED, HE will ALWAYS show up THE SAME WAY, loving us without condition, and without guilt or condemnation! He will ALWAYS welcome us with open arms as His beloved! So let’s move onto maturity and SEE HIM AS HE IS! He will ALWAYS be the SAME, with NO variableness or shadow of turning! He will ALWAYS be blazing Glory, casting no shadow! And because He ALWAYS SEES ONLY THE FATHER IN ALL THINGS, He will NEVER have a reason to turn to the right or to the left! His gaze is fixed, so where is ours?

People say a lot of things about Peter, but at least Peter got out of the boat! He fixed His gaze on Christ, and for a moment he experienced “AS HE IS SO ARE WE IN THIS WORLD!” (I John 4:17) But then Peter began to FEEL the wind stirring up the lapping waves, and he TURNED to the right, and then he TURNED to the left, and He started sinking! And then Jesus looked at him with total disgust and let him drown, right? No, Jesus saved him, as HE will ALWAYS save those who call on HIM! There is no shadow of turning “IN” HIM! (Mathew 14:28-31)

The lamb was cut and the blood was poured into a basin at the foot of the doorway. The hyssop was taken from the basin on the threshold (looking down) of the doorway, dipped in the lambs blood and applied to the top of the doorway (looking up) and then both sides (the turning to the right and the left!) of the doorway!

This Passover is not only about the blood that protects from the death angel, as we have been taught, but is also a pointing to of the POWER OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST (His one time sacrifice for all mankind) which makes this “FIXED” life not only possible, but “NOW” fully expected! This is where we see ONLY GOD, ONLY NOW! The blood has washed away the past and the future, and any inclination we might have for looking to the right or the left! There is no past or future “IN” Him! And if there is no past or future “IN” Him, then why would there be any need for us to turn? Christ is OUR ALL! He is our PAST, PRESENT, and FUTURE!

We “NOW” enter in the entry way by THE NEW AND LIVING WAY! (Hebrews 10:20) The same way that we once believed to be a set of rules, or a philosophy, or traditions of men! The way that had us bound in chains to a past that doesn’t even exist “IN” Him, has “NOW” become the ONLY NEW AND LIVING WAY! And the NEW AND LIVING WAY ONLY EXISTS IN THE “Now” of the NEW AND LIVING "TODAY!" (Hebrews 4:7)

Christ has become our food and drink, the DAILY Manna which we have not known, nor have our fathers! (Deuteronomy 8:3) He is the “Mystery” hidden from ages and past generations. (Colossians 1:26) The lamb’s blood which at one time only covered, is ”NOW” THE BLOOD that thoroughly cleanses! Cleanses from ALL SIN! And by SIN, I don’t mean the individual acts we commit by certain so called UN-Christian behaviors we may exhibit. Behaviors we focus on that cause us to be obsessed with trying to change our UN-Christian Behavior into Christian behavior! So we can TRY to become Christ Like! There is ONLY ONE WHO IS CHRIST LIKE, that is CHRIST Himself! God is not a behaviorist, He is in fact a Love-ist! And we no longer pray to a separated God “up there” or “down the road!” But for some reason, many in the modern day church can’t seem to move past the false belief of a God that exists separate from them! The God “up there”, “down the road”, or the one they have to keep looking to their right or their left to try and find!

The ONLY TRUE SIN FOR THE BELIEVER IS IN SEEING MORE THAN GOD! It’s what James called being double minded, Paul called a wicked unbelieving heart, and Jesus himself called evil!

“Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. It is NOT UP in heaven, so that you have to ask, "Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" NOR IS IT BEYOND the sea, so that you have to ask, "Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" NO! THE (LIVING) WORD IS VERY NEAR YOU, IT (HE) IS “IN” (present tense) YOUR MOUTH AND “IN” (present tense) YOUR HEART SO YOU MAY OBEY IT (HIM)! (Deuteronomy 30:11-14) Rich Novek (FB note 6th Aug 2010_The Now God)

We can hold on to what we thought true before, but it might not have abundant Life flowing from the eternal River within you spirit. Thoughts are the centre of deception unless they are rooted in Truth in you, the deeper Source, Christ within. There is only One Christ and our becoming conscious of this deeper Life is the only discovery with eternal value. What you did yesterday does not matter when you discover your true identity in Him, what you know now is the power that either gets you living in Him or that keeps you living in the dimension of thoughts that might be inferior and not based on Truth at all. The systems in the world keep us busy with stuff that makes us feel inferior and inadequate and insecure. We mostly feel guilty, we worry about almost everything and we are scared to death of not finding God’s approval and maybe not making it into heaven one day.  Living in yesterday and fearing tomorrow make us miss today! We miss living in His awesome moment NOW. Our minds are deceived about the truth of our identity, so we strive to become someone better today, than we were yesterday and somehow never feel that we got it right. This trying to become keeps us just short of making it, so we stay in guilt and shame and striving to do better tomorrow. All the power of healing is in the moment, in a moment you can forgive, you can love, you can set free and care.  Our gift is revealed in the moment, His Life you can share with all and this is Life is the moment, Now!
 We are His moment, we are His appointment, we are His Life on earth as it is in heaven. We are His address, we are His dwelling place, see His presence now is within man. We either wake up to knowing His Presence now, or we stay neutralized by the lie of trying to get to Him somewhere, someplace, sometime in a future happening. Our striving to go to heaven one day might keep you from discovering His fullness in your spirit today, NOW! Do not miss out on finding your true identity in Him by believing in one day, rather lift up your eyes to His presence within you and feast with Him today! Now is the time, today the Day of the Lord!
Dafre Troskie Now the Wow Moment

Unity NOW - GOD Left nothing out already!!!   Chris Welch
Hebrews 2 :8-9
In putting everything under them(mankind/sons of men),^[d] God left nothing that is not subject to them.^[e] Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them.^{[f] 9} But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
Ephesians 4:7“When he ascended on high,
   he took many captives
   and gave gifts to his people.”

 Ephesians 4:15 speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. ¹⁶ From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

Ephesians 4 :3
Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. ⁴ There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; ⁵ one Lord, one faith, one baptism; ⁶ one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
 DOT DOT DOT DOT DOT
So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, ¹² to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up ¹³ until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
 Often we strive for things and wonder why they are unattainable, one of these is unity.
But we are looking in the wrong place. We are looking with our eyes for something perceivable with which to work with, which we can manipulate. This is the whole basis of the most extreme example : the Ecumenical Movement. But really all of us are like it.

Let's take a step backwards : the gift of salvation.
We are sinners. We see the Bible. We see the high standards. We start going to church. We are convicted by the high moral standards coming from the pulpit. But we know we are powerless to change. Then we hear of Jesus sacrifice. Wow , by believing on this sacrifice, that is none of ourselves, we learn we can be reconnected to God. It's been done already. We gratefully accept, and experience in our own being the glory of being instantly reconnected with God.
Unity
Well, how strange it is....but every thing in God is this. Unity too. This is the antidote to the negative spiritual power of mixture and disunity........"to stand still and see the salvation of our God". It's already here.You're too late to go and fetch any of it. It's already arrived!
 In the tabernacle picture are three places that are kind of like the corporate equivalents to the individually experienced three stages of growth :children ,young men,fathers. Outer courts,holyplace,holiest place.

Now because of our weakness, not because of fact......inside the middle area there is a table of shewbread.Take this as Christ Food which we must, eat all the while referring to the candlestick which speaks of the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit in preparing us for maturity.

Because of our weakness, and not because it is fact, those pieces of bread are neatly portioned up into twelve
notional portions.  It is ofcourse notional, because Christ is not in fact divided. But children and young men in Christ (both sexes in the Spirit) cannot handle the WHOLE OF HIM. Obviously there are heights and depths to knowing the love of God in every portion of our being, and one by one the Holy Spirit invades every part with His light. What does He find there.....neutral ground? No, there is no neutral ground. Every part that is not filled with His light is still filled with darkness. While these processes are going on we forebear one another in love. We maintain the keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

When the Holy Spirit pours Himself out on believers He doesn't come and promise one day when people are good enough He will bring unity. He brings the FACTS of heaven NOW.

The NOW fact of heaven is : God left NOTHING that is not subject to mankind.  He completed the job.
We do not see the job completed with our eyes, but in each Spirit-filled meeting that is genuine, the Holy Spirit broadcasts  heaven's finished frequency!   He creates that Spirit model among the believers. Then says walk in it!

I love God's way of doing things. Man's perception of God is that He would stand afar off, and we would use spiritual gifts in some way to make ourselves more approachable to Him.
Our real God is not like that. Instead, knowing our weakness to be able to produce anything at all, HE exports all of heaven NOW for us by the Spirit in the meeting....or in other ways. We are not trying to attain Him, He repeatedly splashes us from His River with heaven now. And this takes root in our beings, transforming us from darkness to Light. But it is RECEIVED from His finished work, not us trying to use spiritual building blocks to somehow get to  it.

What are His tools?

• Well tool one, the most important, is that He has done it all already on the Cross. He has broken down the "dividing wall of hostility". The Temple veil has been once for all rent in two.From the word go we enter beyond the veil right where Jesus is in the Holy of Holies.

We are part of a generation that are now seeing this as a way of life, not just meetings.We do not see everything in subjection with our outer eyes. With our outer eyes we see mixture. We see disunity. but with our inner eyes we gaze upon Mark One Prototype of an innumerable host of like brethren. The fact that the One made it through and has now poured out His same life by the Spirit, means it is a dead cert that we, in the same way by faith, are going the same way.

• But Tool Two He poured out in huge abundance - He gave gifts to men. Spiritual gifts. Supernatural gifts. Natural abilities also, that we receive back by resurrection as we plunge into the Galations 2:20 reality of nolonger I that live, but Christ I, received back from the dead, hidden, interwoven, interleaved with Him in the heavenly places of Ephesians 1 and 2.  You'd better believe in the spiritual giftings and ministries too.

Here's a secret
Each corporate church era had its own type of gifted ministries. We have not fully seen the sort of thing God has in store for this third level of Church building. Charismatics have settled down quite nicely to their versions of what apostles and prophets look like. But Christ uses new tools, or new looking tools for whatever stage is necessary at the time.  Can't tell you anymore than that...just be open.

• Tool Three is as powerful as Genesis 1 when the Father spoke "Let there be Light".We are to be co-speakers, co-declarers of this NOW word of the Kingdom of heaven being at hand. We are to "speak the truth in love". It is quite easy to speak truth among those whose hearts are softened. But it is quite disruptive, though we still speak in love, for those still entrenched in "mixture", in "God and."

God didn't raise up the Word of Faith movement for Cadillacs. He raised up this whole area of "speaking  things into being" so we might accustom ourselves to the Power unleashed as "we speak the truth in love", to build up the Body of Christ faster than we could ever have imagined possible. Why?

• Tool Four. The missing Tool, never used for any length of time  EVER. Tool Four has been cleverly blocked by the devil at every juncture. Tool Four isn't a tool as such, it is a restoration of the truth that new supernaturally given ministries have the power to "equip His people for works of service" quicker than anyone could have ever imagined. I know people hate Morris Cerullo, but he proved that you could take a bunch of ordinary Christians, and over a period of 3-5 days, so blitz them with Truth from anointed ministries, coupled with the "experience" of God acting and working among His people in meetings, that many would leave totally transformed and change their geographical areas for God.

So tool four is Ephesians 4 :16, in the Youngs Literal Translation from whom the whole body, being fitly joined together and united, through the supply of every joint, according to the working in the measure of each single part, the increase of the body doth make for the building up of itself in love. 

NIV has a nasty literal phrase which is absent in the original 
joined and held together by every supporting ligament,
The original text (Youngs)comes from the Holy Spirit, the NIV translation  comes out of the mind of man, based upon their experiences of church history.  Terry Virgo might be called a "supporting ligament".This is total religious baloney .The original makes it clear that we are joined NOW, by the NOW supply of every joint.A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

"according to the working in the measure of each single part"    Wow, can you imagine the speed at which the Body, set free so that every single part is working to its faith capacity, can reproduce and grow?

The Negative Spiritual Power of Mixture: Part Three - Psalm 91 and the opposite

In considering how we operate in mixtures, let's begin by laying a positive foundation in the Psalm 91. This is the first video in a series by David Aldous. Psalm 91 is third level living. 1 John 2 says we begin as children, knowing our sins are forgiven, we are then extended as "young men" (neither male nor female in the spirit) in exercising faith and the spiritual gifts, then it seems like things shut down as was mentioned in the previous post talking about the pupae stage before emerging as butterflies. The Father level is where we KNOW Him who is from the beginning. Psalm 91 becomes a place we "live out of".

Identity and Perception by Rich Novek

Posted: November 14, 2011 in Uncategorized

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All of Life is narrowed down to just two things…IDENTITY AND PERCEPTION!
WHO we are and HOW we see!
The message of the Cross is meant to cut through all of the vanity (things that hold no eternal value) of life and bring these two to the forefront!  Our identity is NOT in what we do, if it is, then what kind of foundation is that to build on?
And it sure isn’t in how most today view God!  The trials and testing’s we try so hard to avoid are necessary if we are ever going to see the hidden mystery revealed!  We have a natural tendency to see and believe life through eyes of separation and division!
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be SINGLE, thy whole body shall be full of light.  But if thine eye be EVIL (double), thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! (Mathew 6:22-23)
The daily Cross causes the things that really matter in life to appear!  To be revealed!
And unless we SEE God Only God Now, we will never KNOW God Only God Now!
“I perceive that you have been with Jesus!”
“Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marveled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.” (Acts 4:13)
For those who know WHO they are IN Christ it goes even deeper!  “I perceive that Jesus lives IN you!”
And our perception of our being IN Christ is the only basis of our true identity, who He is and who we are IN Him!

Evil Redefined! by Rich Novek

Posted: November 22, 2011 in Uncategorized 1 

There is a mixed counterfeit message that says we are saved by Grace alone, but kept by Grace AND… It’s what Paul calls the Different Gospel! 

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be SINGLE, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be EVIL, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! No man can serve TWO masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God AND… In this case it’s God AND mammon.(Mathew 6:22-24) 

Wikepedia defines mammon in the following way: During the Middle Ages, Mammon was commonly personified as the demon of avarice, richness and injustice. 

These are the things you are to teach and insist on. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money (Mammon) is a root of all kinds of EVIL. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many grief’s. (I Timothy 6:2-10) 

But this passage in Mathew is not so much about who or what it is we are serving in addition to Christ, as it is about our seeing more than God in every situation and circumstance of life. Jesus used mammon in this example because it’s one of the major strongholds of humanity. 

Take another look at the story of the Rich Young Ruler! (Luke 18:18-30) No man can serve two masters! As far as Jesus is concerned the word TWO here is synonymous with the word EVIL! Want proof? Then why doesn’t He say “if your eye is “double” in Mathew 6:22. He instead uses the word “evil!.” So what is it He is really saying here? He is saying the human being was specifically designed by God to see as He sees, with a “Single Eye” of faith.A Single Eye towards Christ alone as our life. 

When we see more than God in any situation, we see in division, and as we know, a house (we are that house) divided against itself cannot stand! The “not-so-good-news” of the counterfeit message which Paul speaks of, comes to us saying, YES, you can continue to serve God AND, just keep it up, it’s OK! And as we do we find what Paul found, that this other Jesus comes complete with another Spirit, all the while proclaiming a Different Gospel. (II Corinthians 11:4) A Different Gospel that looks and sounds surprisingly like the REAL Gospel of Grace alone IN Christ alone! But with a twist! This other Spirit doesn’t lead us into all Truth, but a false version of truth! And when we believe the lie long enough, it becomes truth to us! Which is why it’s so hard to receive the message of TRUTH, once we are finally confronted with it! For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.(II Corinthians 11:4) 

The Different Gospel, being the popular held belief of a mixed message of Grace plus law, a false message of a God who lives separated from His body and demands we do something for Him in order to receive something from Him! If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me and the light become night around me,” even the darkness will not be dark to you; the night will shine like the day, for…Darkness is as Light to you. Did you see it! No distinction with God between light and darkness! Remember what Jesus said in Mathew, if the light that is in you is darkness, than how great is that darkness? That is the exact opposite of HOW He sees! He sees darkness and calls it Light! He sees ONLY God IN all things! Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s One and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were EVIL! (John 3:18-19)

This is not talking about less than perfect “Christian” behavior. In fact, if we continue with the thought that Evil is defined by seeing more than God than this makes perfect sense. Light has come into the world, blazing Light! So radiant is the Light that there is no shadow or turning! But men, who love something other than the Light, namely darkness, are defined here as having Evil deeds! These Evil deeds can only be one thing if this passage is going to make sense. The exact same thing Jesus was saying in Mathew 6! No one can serve TWO…masters. But we see people serving more than two masters every day, don’t we? Then what does He mean? Keep reading, because a few words later He is going to say something about darkness, do you see it? 

If that Light IN you is darkness, than how great is that darkness! (Mathew 6:24) 

Here is the Amplified version of the same verse! But if your eye is unsound, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the very light IN you [your conscience] is darkened, how dense is that darkness! (Mathew 6:24)  

This verse defines Evil the way Jesus meant it to be defined, not according to our behavior, but something that goes much deeper! Our Identity! We are Light, but if we believe the darkness (sin consciousness)is in reality who we are, then we now have no other choice than to see ourselves as a mixture of Light and dark (good and evil) and the real definition of Evil! At the heart of Jesus is the desire for a unified body, everyone having all things in common with no need! This can only happen when we SEE Christ alone as our Life! And when we believe what He and others throughout scripture say about true Evil! Evil entered into existence when humanity looked for something in addition to God! It is no different today! So when we believe in a divided Christ and a separated Gospel, it just reinforces what happened to us (our spiritual forefathers) in the Garden! In seeing Only God Only Now…we are walking (in the Light) as we were created, seeing God as the author and finisher of everything, as the One who will never leave or forsake us, and the One who desires we see as He sees! 

I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the EVIL (double) one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth. As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth. “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be One; even as You, Father, are IN Me and I IN You, that they also may be IN us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be One, just as We are One; I IN them and You IN Me, that they may be perfected IN unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me. Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. (John 17:14-24) 

Now we know the truth, and it’s that same truth that sets us free! The truth that God created us IN His image, and when He sees us He sees His Son! He sees only One! By Grace we have been made partakers of this new life IN Christ, and when we see the evil in the world, we no longer define it according to the world’s definition of Evil! Evil is NOW rightly defined as God sees it, which is seeing more than Him in ALL things!

That I might Know Him - Richard'z Rantz blog

That I Might Know Him

November 20, 2011 by rantz72

My continuing ongoing adventure of river walking; walking around the river here in our city has and continues to be a safe place for me to seek His solace and comforting encouragement as a alien passing through this life. That’s right, I’m extraterrestrial.
This quote from Charles Dickens, “A Tale of Two Cites” feels right in so much that is all working together for my good.
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way–in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.”
Walking home after work tonight was no exception to these continuing sorting and sifting out times as I lean unto my Father’s great love for me.
I guess somewhere in the back of my mind I was processing something that Clark shared in response to what Wayne Jacobsen posted on face book regarding the release of his re-edited book, “In Season.”
Clark wrote: “My spirit leaped when I read: “This is a joy that springs from the deepest part of your soul with a knowing that he is with you and his purpose is being fulfilled even in the most difficult times.”
There’s another quote from A Tale of Two Cites from chapter two that is very much in the forefront of my thoughts right now; “Jerry, say that my answer was, ‘RECALLED TO LIFE.’” I am witnessing this being, recalled to Life.
Something I sensed Father whispering into my heart walking home went as follows. Once again how Father by his spirit weaves all (everything) together is a huge part of continually being amazed. Something Wayne shared in the previous pod cast, “Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow” was that the DNA in a Monarch caterpillar was the same as it was in the Monarch butterfly.
My wife was told last year I think it was by a bug expert that as the caterpillar begins to form its chrysalis and once it has been totally encased in its light blue with gold specks coffin, its whole being is turned into a thick jelly like soup during the metamorphosis; a faceless and formless entity. Its right there within that jelly like soup the magic of the existing Monarch butterfly DNA is working to bring forth in time what it was from the very get-go!
What I sensed Father speaking to me was this. So many of my siblings including myself are often very similar at least in our thought life to how the Monarch caterpillar must see itself, just a overly fat earth bound worm.
Where it talks about in the beginning the earth was without form, it was faceless, but, the spirit of God was brooding over the face of the deep. That in itself is a glorious subject to ponder on for a life time. Suddenly God said, let there be light and it was, and out from the light, there came forth form and a face began to emerge.
The very DNA of God the Father is now ours, how, in the re-birthing, and like the mere caterpillar I spoke of, often we do not even know of anything of this inner unseen, undetected reality working from deep within us at all!

I’ve said all of this to say, that in the believer although in many cases most often not detected on our radar screen is the very DNA of the Father, like an imprinting, there is this innate relentless craving desire to know Him.
It says that in the re-birthing it was not done by the will of man or through the power of the flesh but was done by the creative life impregnating (sperma) of God!
What I am sensing is that just like in the beginning where the spirit of God was brooding over the chaotic, formless and faceless deep, so even now is that same spirit brooding over the cry within the heart of the believer; to know Him.
I want to encourage my siblings with this, if you have at any point either sensed or even spoken out that longing of wanting to know Him, then know this, that whatever circumstances and situations you are finding yourself in is the setting, the very place where that jelly like soup within you has and is taking on a form, and a face. To this reality, the spirit bears witness; I see Jesus in you!
Rich

The Negative Spiritual Power of Mixture Part Two : Christmas

"All over the world children are hijacked into a life of sexual abuse, psychological and physical torture. They are bought and sold by members of paedophile rings, often by their own parents, who act as 'recruiters' and 'handlers' in the lower echelons of the secret society network. They are systematically abused, tortured and murdered in ritualistic ceremonies by people who occupy places throughout the social hierarchy all the way to the top. Eye witness accounts, such as those given by a friend of mine named Patti who was 'recruited' as a child of three, have implicated members of the aristocracy, doctors, lawyers, members of the clergy, high level businessmen, media stars, members of the world's governments (see Who We Are – Mind Manipulation/Project Monarch).


Sophisticated mind control techniques are used to compartmentalise the memories of the abused to prevent them from revealing the awful truth to the public. Patti has displayed many separate personalities whilst recounting her horrific experiences, displaying the classic symptoms of Multiple Personality Disorder. Often victims are too scared to even mention such things to each other, never mind to strangers. They are brought up in the certain knowledge that they can be easily picked up off the streets or from their beds and drugged for use in abuse at any time. They are fully aware also that their abusers are everywhere, including in the medical professions and police. Victims are ceremonially 'married' to the leaders of the cult and are given their own 'dark companion', a sinister thought-form who will be ever present in order to inform on them if they should ever step out of line. They are often forced to take part in the abuse, murder and disposal of other victims in order to ensure a total attack upon the psyche of the individual concerned and the victim is soon convinced that they have become at least as guilty of these crimes as their assailants. Therefore, they are ever paranoid and terrified of revealing the truth to anyone other that those who have themselves been victims.from Brotherhood 8.

• Rheinhard Bonnke has a testimony of a German woman brought up in this kind of arena in the Satanic ritualistic groups of the Black Forest region of Germany. The lady had to keep moving on until she was delivered, because the family always knew where she was.
• Last year a young man from Iceland contacted me and i sought to put him in touch with help since he was in Germany. Christians are generally ill equipped to help at these levels. They often cite cases of being infiltrated by time wasters, so then become very reluctant to have anything to do with this area of abuse.

So what has this got to do with Christmas?
Well let's back up a stage to Genesis 3.

Reading around this area of mind manipulation has flagged up issues that we are now coming across as we take Galations 2:20 into all of our lives.  Before, outside meetings, we would wander round half-asleep spiritually. In fact you can prove this quite ruthlessly  by  speaking  third level truths to other Christians.

Remember, the doorway to the third stage of Christian growth in practice is  "Reckoning" from Romans 6.
We must have revelation of  Galations 2:20
²⁰ I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Romans 6:

In the same way, count yourselves/reckon yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. ¹² Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. ¹³ Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. ¹⁴ For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
You will find if you experiment that if you talk in these Biblical absolute terms, or even more specifically using Page Prewitt and Norman Grubb's language  "Christ in our form as us"  you can literally count the seconds until their eyes literally glaze over in front of you. And it is the same glazing that happens when you first speak to a non-Christian.   The Bible puts it this way: The god of this world has blinded (the internal) eyes of those who do not know God. This internal programming has an "auto- off switch" which is completely involuntary, they do not know they are doing it.

So this indeed is an early pointer to the scriptures in Ezekiel 8:10 and surrounding chapter where it describes the real programming area of our lives. It is all completely subconscious and out of reach. It requires the Holy Spirit fused with our spirit to be the lamp which reveals the heart of man....this is somewhere deep in our soul area but not actually part of our completely regenerate spirit.

So, while talking with the serpent in Genesis 3, for the first time, on the blank clean walls of their inner temples, Eve and Adam , in that order, started to be "re-programmed" by the seductive lying spirit that they initially heard as "surface words" only.

This is how I wrote about this yesterday to Bonnie Morris:
Chris Welch Nevertheless, if we never moved from this one conversation for a year, that would be small fry since all of us have been duped for literally thousands of years. We have taken the blame for what was not ours...and taken none of the responsibility for what was ours to take. Watch carefully how it works. Genesis 3. The devil sells us all something which is not true at all....that there is such a thing as being a god in our own right. Doesn't exist. We either serve one master or another. When we serve any other master apart from the ONE, we click into an alien spirit...which we do not control, it controls us.Then we feel so bad....which is the whole idea ofcourse....that we cover our shame with the most futile covering....figleaves. Now figleaves are ridiculous....and they have holes in. Absolutely useless. Yet because they are useless we feel we cannot go to God and accept responsiblity for that part of the equation that was ours.
1We talked to strange serpents.
2We picked up lies about the goodness of God.
3And our heart was infected with a total delusion....that we could rise and be gods in our own right, able to choose good from evil. Which is to choose to lock ourselves into founding our lives on "what we think", on what our left-brains are saying, instead of listening to our insides....which are now shot....because of excessive overpowering shame.
The chapter specifically describes how God targets all these obstacles with His truth that sets us free....and is a perfect mirror of what Jesus was also doing with Peter on the shore of Galilee, asking him persistently whether Peter loved Him.
Part of our restoration, as those who devised the 12 StepAlcohol and addiction rehabilitation  programme have found is we have to own up to the painful shameful areas where we have hooked up with the Satan spirit.But outside this, we do not own up to that which was nothing to do with us. That , friends, is called religion.

Notice ALL Adam and Eve had to do was go through the pain, and face the shame full on, of their nakedness. Notice the shame was what they felt in front of a holy God....it was NOTHING to do with what God was putting on them. What He was putting on them was clothes made from an animal that had to give up its life in their place, until ONE came who could fix the deal permanently....Jesus, the Son of God.

Mixture
The devil doesn't come and say NONE of THE WORD OF GOD is true. He mixes into our pure belief stream a question about one area.
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
Well God had never said that at all....but the preposterous notion provoked a conversation with Eve trying to put him right.  Now if we just hear the words alone like some salesman, or lawyer presenting a left-brain case we are missing what is happening underneath.  The serpent is speaking from an enticing subterranean spirit of error which for the first time in their existence is appealing to their insides. They'd never heard anything like it. God's words are pure, undefiled, holy, invigorating, filled with love and life.

Christmas

If you get time read around the subjects quoted at the top of this page. We have thought in terms of Good and Evil. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Black and White.
Paul says : we have died to the elemental spirits of the universe of what we should handle, touch or taste.
The spiritual power lies in mixture.
Here is an extreme form from Richard Wurmbrand's book about Marx and Satan.
He says we all have desires and pulls towards evil, but the truly Satanic heart is when he seeks to mimic the very things of God and sully them.
Richard said the truly Satanic was not the murder of victims by Communists, it was for example the hanging by crucifixion of a priest found on the walls of a Communist jail. That is Satanic. The mixture. The blending of God stuff with his own. Satan makes a big thing to this day of the time of 2.50 in the afternoon when Jesus was reportedly crucified.
The mass, or Eucharist emblems of the bread and wine are always the things parodied by Satanists. This is Satan's central heart.

Mind Control

So, please understand, according to the above mentioned scripture of "we have died to the elmental spirits of the world", I am making no judgment about Christmas per se.
It is not a festival ordinanced by God.
But neither is America's Thanksgiving meal, nor their Independence day. They are set up by man, hopefully to call to mind how God has stepped in.
The nearest thing to Christmas is the Feast of Tabernacles since both talk about God tabernacling in flesh with men.

That said, consider this. This is a combination of the principles of mixture, and mental trauma in mind-control.
Set up in a child the image of Father Christmas as a strong  image with a powerful sense of recompense (the giving of gifts) which will be embedded in the child.  (This does not work quite as powerfully in Spanish speaking countries which relate gift giving to the very real three wise men of history). But link this firmly in their subconscious with the idea of Jesus Christ as a real person.  Why would the devil freely allow the recourse we have at Christmas for speaking the gospel?

Because at the age of 7,8,9 or 10 the Father Christmas image will then be exposed, and in most cases, as this is all firmly embedded in a child alongside Jesus Christ and His reality, this too will be smashed by association, and mind-control and manipulation.  So by the time of secondary school  you have the children, quite shattered in some ways at the breakdown of the expectancy, excitement and wonderment of life, and less trusting anymore of their parents or their own hearts, they are considerably more left-brain compliant for the presentation of a life lived perfectly well without any need for God.

Ofcourse according to the various forms of Elite, who have had to go through their own , mostly, 33 stage induction into laying their lives open to Luciferian doctrine and belief, by the time they are in the high echelons, none of them believe in godless secularism.....thier god is spelt out for everyone who delves...it is

Jah-Bul-On

An unholy mixture of   Jahweh, Baal, and Onysiris the Egyptian god.
And their Lucifer, they have been firmly indoctrinated, is the same as the Messiah that the Jews still expect, and they confuse the two Morning Stars....
Lucifer, the star of the morning
with Jesus, the Bright and Morning Star, the Daystar.

The one refers to the star that takes predominance when all the world is dark, which is referred to in Psalm 134. The other is the One Light that has ever existed, whose appearance in our hearts shines brighter and brighter until noonday. Jesus.

You don't need to go to some obscure esoteric bookshop, just look at Lucis Trust.( lucistrust.org )Which began as Lucifer Trust.  And it is this printing house that is responsible for United Nations printing. In the writings on this site you will observe in real time the confusion over the different identities of Lucifer and Jesus.

That is the power of mixture.  The devil comes as an angel of light.
If the light within us is darkness, how great is that darkness.