Sunday, 30 November 2014
Brian Zahnd is one....a chips fall man
Brian Zahnd is one.....but you will notice something strange. .......
It is picked up in The Different Drum by M Scott Peck. And here you will need to know the four psychological stages of internalizing our identities and beliefs.
1 We begin as egocentric.... the world revolves around us
2. We are socialised and learn that it isn't.
3. We chuck everything up in the air again to see where the chips fall, and distinguish the absolute truth from that which was told us to socialize us.
4. Synthesis where we now live fairly happily in our own skin knowing roughly how WE work.
We chuck everything up in the air again to see where the chips fall, and distinguish the absolute truth from that which was told us to socialize us.
But if you were in the 70s Jesus Move you noticed by the 90s people either jacking the whole thing in....or starting as Brian tweets today....to reference Advent thoughts....i.e. they have gone High church or Orthodox church. What is the attraction? There is no thirdlevel church currently so this is the rough work around....this type of church gives personal space to meditate or if Orthodox to visualise. What I listen with my Spirit for is in their synthesis stage....do they know Christ in their form now....or have they just done a tribe of Dan and become the next generation's Snake in the Way?And as both groups now think quite deeply and individualistically it's almost impossible to tell before they have killed you intentionally or unintentionally like the ever so clever but ever so "what is Truth?" Pilate.
Whenever someone is in faith it is always understood by unbelief as arrogance and puffed up behaviour.
It is puffed up ofcourse....but with a different spirit than theirs....it's puffed up with God...who is humble....but absolutely clear on what He is going to do.
Like Cain and Abel the issue is always God coming forth in Union incarnation of Himself LIVE. Such a one will be killed....sidelined.....opposed by the Satan spirit living still in the rest.
Abel had the Divine blueprint. Cain did not. Abel had it not because 'he was better' ,he had it because he loved God and had hung around with Him. To set the mind on the Spirit isn't really an option though....it's in the Spirit that every atom finds its being....if we look to what appears now we are not looking in the right place. Noah only knew to build a boat because He hung around in the eternal Now and got the heads up for what was about to happen in creation as it began to collapse under the weight of the sin spirit. The whole of the firmament ....The uppercanopy was about to crash...and the inner caverns of water of the depths. In like manner we need the Divine blueprint of our age before things occur. It's not optional. Millions literally die without it.
( for the science of the firmament read a structural engineers book on how it functioned based on all the old historical oral histories. The Firmament of the Sky Dome. By Leander Pimenta.)
Any kid at any time can access the eternal Now and speak something so profound it blows the parents away. One of my tuning clients had a baby whose first words were a sentence....to his dad...."do you love God.?" His dad started going to the local C of E church. Unfortunately it was the rower Matthew Pinsents Dad....and trained in Oxford, the rural farmers hadn't a clue what he was preaching.
Generally speaking someone who is going through their 'socialisation stage' stage 2 in Bill Johnson's church....without a direct NOW rhema Word at least.......Will not be able to impress a Stage 3 Jack" it all in type of person" like Hal Williamson. Hal will only relate to fellow Jack it all in Rick Olson types....or genuine stage 4 people some of whom may have found Union....some like tribe of Dan types are full of earthly wisdom....which of course has the appearance of mostly being true......but forthe exception of genuine God invasion into our current reality.
The man Jesus put out of the room was right when He said I don't believe in the miraculous. Human wisdom can be right....it depends who is believing it or who is refusing to believe it. Belief works any which way round. Read Ezekiel 8.10 about the scrawlings on the inner surfaces of our Faith machine. What is categorically true is faith does not work in the left brain. That is not where our faith machine is. The devil's favourite trick is to take a Stage two person who has filled his left brain with church and God knowledge and say.....see it doesn't work!!!!Jack it all in. I could have saved the devil the bother.....two things....Faith only works from the right place....so that's why it says faith comes by hearing and the ability to hear is triggered by the Word.....so no faith doesn't come from left brain acquisition of Word...no..... secondly...Christianity is not witchcraft.....it's about relationship and putting on God Himself in a losing to gain message.....The Cross.....eating His Bread.....it's not about some super witch power trip. The thirdlevel Christians...The father level people of 1 John 2 are involved in things so enormous it's like a boat passing the white Cliffs of Dover and thinking it's just fog.
What I listen with my Spirit for is in their synthesis stage....do they know Christ in their form now....or have they just done a tribe of Dan and become the next generation's Snake in the Way?
Everyone on earth missed the fact that Chairman Mao was lining up his troops to invade Europe in a swoop down in 1974 ....and that's because Mother Basilea Schlink went away fasting and engaging with him in the throne of God.....so what he did instead was allowed himself to be bribed a year later by Kissinger and Nixon who basically said you can have the same thing anyway by economic takeover......which has largely now taken place.
Saturday, 29 November 2014
Thoughts on why Teenage boys don't study as hard as girls
There are two sides to why teenage boys don't study naturally as hard as girls do.
One is laziness and not getting down to the job in hand, preferring most anything else....kicking around footballs, TV,Youtubes,Computer games and immersive worlds of action and fighting....
But is that a clue to the other side?
Men NEED a CAUSE. Because having a nice house and even a nice car...or perhaps a nice wife who is impressed by the nice house and the nice car...doesn't cut it. Men NEED to gamble. They need something that could go both ways.
Pascale even wrote a Christian faith treatise on this. And that was 400 years ago!!!!
The CAUSE has to tie all the smaller things together.
Some of us have been unearthing what the occult have done.
They have one rule for them and one rule for outsiders.
The rule for them is called "The GREAT WORK". The all encompassing plan to place Lucifer on the throne of the Earth and to "liberate man" to be able to complete what that unkind god ADONAY stopped at Babel....the completion of a Tower that stretched into the sky....THE " WE HAVE DONE THIS "TOWER. And the New World Order is the combination of both aims planned and instituted largely through clandestine organisations, most of which have no clue on the lower levels of what they are really involved in.
Their rule for others is to strip any form of big picture apart from their one from all the rank and file. They have rewritten history according to the Tribe of Dan which is largely the esoteric grounding behind Greece, Rome, Constantine, Charlemagne, Napoleon down to the present day. In the last couple of years they are now bringing out books to smear the whole of Hebrew history with the "Dan occult Egyptology " brush. 5 years ago they did the same with Dan Brown's Da Vinci code and Christianity. They ascribe THEIR history like Poo-filled paintbrushes to the whole of Christianity.
The facts are not all in regarding MAN...but one thing we know is that recorded human history is only a few thousand years old. Dawkins may still say that for hundreds of thousands of years they didn't write. But recorded history is very recent. But while the Bloodlines date their families back to Babel, in the outer world our history is completely airbrushed of all but the history of the tribe of Dan.
Bill Cooper spent 20 years researching as much as he could of all the rest. Britain's largely hidden history. How closely do the world genealogies marry up? Oxford and Cambridge , being manipulated, say not at all. One man, taking the trouble to see for himself says...actually there are only a handful of names that are different in any of the world's accounts.
ALREADY boy's need to know their place in the world has been stripped from under them by a completely falsified, and not even facelifted history.
Boy's NEED the whole picture or else the relevance of the tiny day to day bits like homework just DON'T FIGURE. Boys want to carve their own destiny some place. What relevance is 2000 years of base knowledge if it cannot be added to.
What is MAN's identity?
The Occult strip mankind of their true dignity. We are glorified animals in a random world.
Psalm 139 says exactly the opposite. Jesus said all the hairs of our head are numbered....and he couldn't say more because we didn't have microscopes 2000 years ago. If He was living His earthly life as Him (as opposed to as us in the Body of Christ) He would take it all the way back to quarks.
The Politically Correct world strips us of all good bad boundaries. This is from the occult. The occult and Tao belief of good and bad on a continuum is flooding our schools. The two GOOD BAD frameworks of God barely get a look in.
Why Two? Well there are outer laws, but later people get to learn from which spirit are people moving.
This absence of clear boundary plays havoc with male frames of reference. One of the larger male qualities is keen judgment. Destroy the boundaries and you get very female men, fluffing along in a delicate flower type way, always frightened to be who they really are: grown men destined to be IN THE GATES OF SOCIETY.
Charismatic Christianity has contributed immensely. The occult rulers of this world have actively encouraged charismatic sattellite TV because it helps pay their sattellite bills and largely contributes to their cause of fluffy effeminate men who comply with their overarching "GREAT WORK" endeavours. As long as Christians are talking about the Kingdom and producing another excellent band of worker slaves who conscientiously fulfil their duties....do you think OCCULT rulers are flustered? They garner the cash results!!!!!
Boys are not aware of these complexities, they just know that something at a deep subterranean level is not connecting. Something about what they are learning just does not tie in with any strong spiritual value and quality that they feel SHOULD apply somewhere.....something that will make a difference for them.
WHY ULTIMATELY SHOULD THEY STUDY TO GET A JOB A HOUSE A CAR...the MOST BEAUTIFUL PARTNER THEY CAN ATTRACT and then give birth to another set who will be inculcated in an education system which does the very same thing , with a bit more added knowledge that has been discovered in the interim?
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Agenda 21? Click here
One is laziness and not getting down to the job in hand, preferring most anything else....kicking around footballs, TV,Youtubes,Computer games and immersive worlds of action and fighting....
But is that a clue to the other side?
Men NEED a CAUSE. Because having a nice house and even a nice car...or perhaps a nice wife who is impressed by the nice house and the nice car...doesn't cut it. Men NEED to gamble. They need something that could go both ways.
Pascale even wrote a Christian faith treatise on this. And that was 400 years ago!!!!
The CAUSE has to tie all the smaller things together.
Some of us have been unearthing what the occult have done.
They have one rule for them and one rule for outsiders.
The rule for them is called "The GREAT WORK". The all encompassing plan to place Lucifer on the throne of the Earth and to "liberate man" to be able to complete what that unkind god ADONAY stopped at Babel....the completion of a Tower that stretched into the sky....THE " WE HAVE DONE THIS "TOWER. And the New World Order is the combination of both aims planned and instituted largely through clandestine organisations, most of which have no clue on the lower levels of what they are really involved in.
Their rule for others is to strip any form of big picture apart from their one from all the rank and file. They have rewritten history according to the Tribe of Dan which is largely the esoteric grounding behind Greece, Rome, Constantine, Charlemagne, Napoleon down to the present day. In the last couple of years they are now bringing out books to smear the whole of Hebrew history with the "Dan occult Egyptology " brush. 5 years ago they did the same with Dan Brown's Da Vinci code and Christianity. They ascribe THEIR history like Poo-filled paintbrushes to the whole of Christianity.
The facts are not all in regarding MAN...but one thing we know is that recorded human history is only a few thousand years old. Dawkins may still say that for hundreds of thousands of years they didn't write. But recorded history is very recent. But while the Bloodlines date their families back to Babel, in the outer world our history is completely airbrushed of all but the history of the tribe of Dan.
Bill Cooper spent 20 years researching as much as he could of all the rest. Britain's largely hidden history. How closely do the world genealogies marry up? Oxford and Cambridge , being manipulated, say not at all. One man, taking the trouble to see for himself says...actually there are only a handful of names that are different in any of the world's accounts.
ALREADY boy's need to know their place in the world has been stripped from under them by a completely falsified, and not even facelifted history.
Boy's NEED the whole picture or else the relevance of the tiny day to day bits like homework just DON'T FIGURE. Boys want to carve their own destiny some place. What relevance is 2000 years of base knowledge if it cannot be added to.
What is MAN's identity?
The Occult strip mankind of their true dignity. We are glorified animals in a random world.
Psalm 139 says exactly the opposite. Jesus said all the hairs of our head are numbered....and he couldn't say more because we didn't have microscopes 2000 years ago. If He was living His earthly life as Him (as opposed to as us in the Body of Christ) He would take it all the way back to quarks.
The Politically Correct world strips us of all good bad boundaries. This is from the occult. The occult and Tao belief of good and bad on a continuum is flooding our schools. The two GOOD BAD frameworks of God barely get a look in.
Why Two? Well there are outer laws, but later people get to learn from which spirit are people moving.
This absence of clear boundary plays havoc with male frames of reference. One of the larger male qualities is keen judgment. Destroy the boundaries and you get very female men, fluffing along in a delicate flower type way, always frightened to be who they really are: grown men destined to be IN THE GATES OF SOCIETY.
Charismatic Christianity has contributed immensely. The occult rulers of this world have actively encouraged charismatic sattellite TV because it helps pay their sattellite bills and largely contributes to their cause of fluffy effeminate men who comply with their overarching "GREAT WORK" endeavours. As long as Christians are talking about the Kingdom and producing another excellent band of worker slaves who conscientiously fulfil their duties....do you think OCCULT rulers are flustered? They garner the cash results!!!!!
Boys are not aware of these complexities, they just know that something at a deep subterranean level is not connecting. Something about what they are learning just does not tie in with any strong spiritual value and quality that they feel SHOULD apply somewhere.....something that will make a difference for them.
WHY ULTIMATELY SHOULD THEY STUDY TO GET A JOB A HOUSE A CAR...the MOST BEAUTIFUL PARTNER THEY CAN ATTRACT and then give birth to another set who will be inculcated in an education system which does the very same thing , with a bit more added knowledge that has been discovered in the interim?
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Agenda 21? Click here
Thursday, 27 November 2014
Servant......THE BLUEPRINT
What's good about a servant?
Servants Do stuff....they get stuff done
They do exactly as they are commanded Psalm 123
They don't have to know why.
They don't have to know how it fits in with anyone else or the overall plan.....that's the Master's problem.
They can be wholly concentrated on the task in hand and completing it.
The last part of the body to be born is generally the feet.....the feet walk the gospel out. "Having your feet shod with the gospel of peace."
Servants don't have to be concerned with someone else's role or task, just their own.
There's a lovely simplicity to serving....leave others to all the complications.
The Last shall be first and the first last. Servants in the world tend to be the least, but in the Kingdom they are just about TOP DOG.
Most of the Kingdom works upside down.
God came as a servant in Jesus.
He laid the pattern with 12 ordinary men.
He served them and spoke Word to them until they reached the Ephesians description....of "working properly"....then in Acts 2 they began the same system.
Ch 4" but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together [k]by what every joint supplies, according to the [l]proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love."
THAT WHICH EVERY JOINT SUPPLIES......
BUT ONLY WHEN WORKING PROPERLY....
Until one is properly born again then "Christed" properly.....the service we can give is restricted to the natural realm....what we can do....what we are naturally as individuals....all of which has to go into the ground and die to become this fruitful Kingdom plant that then
"SERVES ON ACID" !!!!!!
Psalm 123 describes how we wait on God for His every indication
Christ knows what He is building and what we need to do next....WE INVARIABLY DON'T.
Man builds a building that looks like scaffolding....
Jesus uses His true servants to BUILD A LIVING CHRIST who reproduces
AFTER THE GOD KIND.
You may be sent abroad.
You may be called to serve a family member and go nowhere. But locking yourself in to God's actual will is explosive....
Brother Lawrence famously learned to practice the Presence of God while purely washing up. HE SO FOUND the Presence of God Kings and Commanders CAME TO HIM for wisdom and advice.
"Grab a wiping up cloth and I'll tell you!!!!"
20 YEARS AGO leaders all over the world came up with "servant leadership"....but the "models of the churches", the "infrastructures" never really changed.
MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE ON EARTH....THE EARTH'S FUTURE DEPENDS ON CHRISTIANS LEARNING TO SERVE AS NEVER BEFORE....not just the famous loocleaning....that's a given!!!!
NO....The secret is every Body member learning supernaturally Psalm 123...what Jesus wants them to do next according to the heavenly Melchizedek Order of priesthood.
AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW.....it's way beyond any human protocol anywhere....there is no human to judge what is going on...we only see what we see in the Spirit....then look round some time later and there's a whole new KINGDOM HUB BUILT shining its Light for the world to see!!!!.
SERVING is not a small PEP TALK
SERVING is the VISION of the TRANSPLANTATION OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD !!!!
Friday, 21 November 2014
Global Warming Scam - Moneynews article and LINK
Imagine, for a moment, sitting at a prestigious steakhouse in Palm Beach, Florida, a hot spot for some of the most wealthy and famous — Donald Trump, Tiger Woods, Oprah Winfrey, James Patterson, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds more.
And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.
In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.
You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table.
This document, you soon find out, contains damning evidence that a network of politicians, corporations, and scientists have conspired together to promote the fear of “global warming” . . . despite evidence clearly stating no such “global warming” exists.
The motive: $22 billion per year.
To be clear . . . that’s $22 billion of taxpayers’ money . . . the amount that our government pays to stop the “global warming” epidemic.
That comes out to $41,856 every minute.
Or, to put it in perspective, that is twice as much as what our government spends on securing our borders.
Then, imagine this top U.S. intelligence agent turning to you, and asking for you to join him on a mission to out those involved in the “global warming” lie.
Doing so would cost a lot of money, a lot of time, and could cost you your reputation. But, pretending you never saw the document, and carrying on with your life, would allow the scandal to continue and actually put lives at risk.
So, imagine if you were at that table, and the scenario I just described happened to you.
How Would You Respond?
My name is Tom Luongo, and I’ve recently had this exact experience.
In the following few pages, I am going to show you the alarming research in the document that was laid before me that night in Palm Beach.
I will tell you why this network of politicians, corporations, and scientists tried to hide this research . . . and how you can be part of a newly formed initiative with the aim of getting this research into the hands of every American.
This research proves, once and for all, that “global warming” is a sham . . . a sham perpetuated by a network of dirty government officials, greedy corporations, and bought-off “scientific” organizations.
How you respond will be up to you.
I can guarantee you one thing: After reading the next few pages, you will never look at government officials the same way . . . you will never trust what you hear in the media again . . . in fact, you will become skeptical of any and all authority figures going forward.
It’s unfortunate, but the betrayal you’re going to discover today runs very deep, and revealing the truth about “global warming” comes with great risk.
As a scientist for over 20 years, I’ve always upheld the truth.
I’ve worked with the University of Florida to do some amazing things . . . I’ve helped make crop yields more productive for third world countries . . . I helped create an intermetallic coating for gun barrels that dropped maintenance requirements on firearms by half . . . and I’ve helped cure diseases.
I have seen a lot of research go across my desk. But none of it can compare to the 164-page document that landed in front of me that night in Palm Beach.
That’s why I’m going to lay the facts from this document before you today, and then I’m going to ask that you join me, and the man who composed this document, on our mission to defund the “global warming” sham . . .
All it will take is a click of your mouse.
With one click, you’re going to put more momentum behind what I hope to be the largest effort . . . ever . . . to annihilate the “global warming” lie and defund the government’s multibillion-dollar spending frenzy to keep it alive.
Now, before we begin, I ask that you excuse any “rough” elements in this letter. What I’m sharing with you today is so urgent that I’ve made a huge effort to get the research in this 164-page document available to you as quickly as possible . . .
With President Obama’s recent speech about getting tougher on “global warming” issues I think it’s critical that we don’t waste a minute in getting this information out.
The sooner we get this information into the hands of the public . . . your hands . . . the more informed voters will be when they cast their ballots.
First, you should know who put this document in my hands — a man whom Al Gore is personally attacking . . .
His Name Is John Casey.
For the whole article under these headings and more read the Moneynews article
And now, a small but distinguished group of scientists and researchers are publically aligning themselves with John Casey and his organization.
One such organization recently named John . . .
'America's No. 1 Climate Forecaster'
Perhaps that is because unlike some of the “global warming” darlings and proponents — NOAA, NASA, and the IPCC — John’s research has consistently predicted weather patterns correctly.
And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.
In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.
You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table.
This document, you soon find out, contains damning evidence that a network of politicians, corporations, and scientists have conspired together to promote the fear of “global warming” . . . despite evidence clearly stating no such “global warming” exists.
The motive: $22 billion per year.
To be clear . . . that’s $22 billion of taxpayers’ money . . . the amount that our government pays to stop the “global warming” epidemic.
That comes out to $41,856 every minute.
Or, to put it in perspective, that is twice as much as what our government spends on securing our borders.
Then, imagine this top U.S. intelligence agent turning to you, and asking for you to join him on a mission to out those involved in the “global warming” lie.
Doing so would cost a lot of money, a lot of time, and could cost you your reputation. But, pretending you never saw the document, and carrying on with your life, would allow the scandal to continue and actually put lives at risk.
So, imagine if you were at that table, and the scenario I just described happened to you.
How Would You Respond?
My name is Tom Luongo, and I’ve recently had this exact experience.
In the following few pages, I am going to show you the alarming research in the document that was laid before me that night in Palm Beach.
I will tell you why this network of politicians, corporations, and scientists tried to hide this research . . . and how you can be part of a newly formed initiative with the aim of getting this research into the hands of every American.
This research proves, once and for all, that “global warming” is a sham . . . a sham perpetuated by a network of dirty government officials, greedy corporations, and bought-off “scientific” organizations.
How you respond will be up to you.
I can guarantee you one thing: After reading the next few pages, you will never look at government officials the same way . . . you will never trust what you hear in the media again . . . in fact, you will become skeptical of any and all authority figures going forward.
It’s unfortunate, but the betrayal you’re going to discover today runs very deep, and revealing the truth about “global warming” comes with great risk.
As a scientist for over 20 years, I’ve always upheld the truth.
I’ve worked with the University of Florida to do some amazing things . . . I’ve helped make crop yields more productive for third world countries . . . I helped create an intermetallic coating for gun barrels that dropped maintenance requirements on firearms by half . . . and I’ve helped cure diseases.
I have seen a lot of research go across my desk. But none of it can compare to the 164-page document that landed in front of me that night in Palm Beach.
That’s why I’m going to lay the facts from this document before you today, and then I’m going to ask that you join me, and the man who composed this document, on our mission to defund the “global warming” sham . . .
All it will take is a click of your mouse.
With one click, you’re going to put more momentum behind what I hope to be the largest effort . . . ever . . . to annihilate the “global warming” lie and defund the government’s multibillion-dollar spending frenzy to keep it alive.
Now, before we begin, I ask that you excuse any “rough” elements in this letter. What I’m sharing with you today is so urgent that I’ve made a huge effort to get the research in this 164-page document available to you as quickly as possible . . .
With President Obama’s recent speech about getting tougher on “global warming” issues I think it’s critical that we don’t waste a minute in getting this information out.
The sooner we get this information into the hands of the public . . . your hands . . . the more informed voters will be when they cast their ballots.
First, you should know who put this document in my hands — a man whom Al Gore is personally attacking . . .
John Casey |
His Name Is John Casey.
For the whole article under these headings and more read the Moneynews article
- 'Global Warming' Is an Outright Sham
- But That Hasn't Stopped the Hostile Attacks...
- At the Heart of John's Discovery Were Several Blatant Lies... Here Are 3 of Them
And now, a small but distinguished group of scientists and researchers are publically aligning themselves with John Casey and his organization.
One such organization recently named John . . .
'America's No. 1 Climate Forecaster'
Perhaps that is because unlike some of the “global warming” darlings and proponents — NOAA, NASA, and the IPCC — John’s research has consistently predicted weather patterns correctly.
Wednesday, 19 November 2014
Helpful or actually pretty useless?
Discussing the following phrase:
JESUS CAN'T TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS YOUR LORD UNTIL YOU DIE TO YOURSELF.
At one level this is helpful as an overall principle.
But like an oasis the nearer you get to it the more it evaporates. So actually it's pretty useless. It's like some of the Gene Edwards books that drove us absolutely nuts in the end.
JESUS CAN'T TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS YOUR LORD UNTIL YOU DIE TO YOURSELF.
You won't find this phrase anywhere in the New Testament. It is charismatic speak. Or in Gene Edwards or Watchman Nee's case....poor articulation coming out of a guy who HAS had the touch of the Spirit deep on their lives.
The only thing in the Bible is a done deal.
The other rather surprising thing is as we pass through the veil (of flesh/of control/ of our fleshlife we have a real big shock.
It's like the River in Ezekiel.
The River is written from the point of view of a fallen man putting his tootsies, then his kneesies, then his middle into the River...
If it was written from a THRONE point of view all you'd see were tootsies, then kneesies then half a man or woman.
YOU SEE there is only One Life in the Universe. The Independent Self as such doesn't have an existence any more than Darkness has an existence at night. Just light a match and watch what a whole Universe of Darkness does to it. Errrrrr....nothing.
So flesh cannot say to itself...hmmm I think I'll die to myself today.
It's a delusion. It's a "double vision"....where Jesus says you must have a single eye. To see God only.
So the trick of prayer....or anything really....is exactly opposite to what we think would be the answer.
Let's take prayer...
The gentile or Anglican version...is to heap up prayers
Catholic wise....you use beads and Hail Marys
With Krishna....you say tons of Krishnas
With charismatics you heap up praying in tongues and hope after a certain amount of minutes you break through.
But the real thing as Jesus says is to Go into your Inner room
shut your leftbrain and surface senses door
and meet with your Father in secret....
WHY?
YOU HAVE TO FIND what Francois DuToit and Andre Rabe call the AUTHENTIC YOU....formed (Psalm 139) yes in the womb, but also brought forth from eternity past in the Bosom of the Father. Francois calls it the LOGOS or central THOUGHT of the Father...but he's incredibly leftbrain and thinks in terms of LOGIC.
Luckily you are also the Apple of His eye...and this is God's central Vison...which is rightbrain....and He loves you with all His heart...which is where you were conceived in Him....in His yearning for you.
So waiting upon the Lord is FINDING what already IS....from Eternity past.
The Cross is REAL. because the Devil's power is real. In the sense that it is God's life turned in on himself, the devil, self for self. There was no part of our inner core that didn't need to die. Like a fly in the ointment....you couldn't repackage and sell it in Harrods. It had to be cast out. So saying that flesh life is not real....does not mean it doesn't have an existence.....
It's more like self-consciousness
Let's look at this.
Part of growing up is going through that horrible teenage self-consciousness thing.
The self-consciousness doesn't really have any definite form or substance....it's like a shortcircuit more than a definite thing.
Part of confidence as an adult is being able to be REALLY ME in public....without all the naff self-consciousness and coyness seizing everything up.
As we set the mind on the Spirit we are looking and beholding the GENUINE PERSON OF GOD....and the GENUINE PERSON of US IN GOD. As we take steps to ACT OUT from this genuine Person...this is what living in the Spirit is.
The peace the Holy Spirit gives us at new birth is our umpire.
When we don't have peace about something we don't do it. As unborn again people we were only vaguely aware of what our innards were saying....as people circumcised in the heart...we are now more raw....and the more we set our minds on the Spirit the more acutely sensitive we are to what the Holy Spirit is really doing through us and what He is not.
The practice runs were charismatic meetings.
Satan's entire realm consists upon being able to coerce and organise people to do what God is not really doing. As soon as everybody on the planet lived by faith and chose faith and not sin....his entire operation would dry up in one day. WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.
JESUS CAN'T TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS YOUR LORD UNTIL YOU DIE TO YOURSELF.
At one level this is helpful as an overall principle.
But like an oasis the nearer you get to it the more it evaporates. So actually it's pretty useless. It's like some of the Gene Edwards books that drove us absolutely nuts in the end.
JESUS CAN'T TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS YOUR LORD UNTIL YOU DIE TO YOURSELF.
You won't find this phrase anywhere in the New Testament. It is charismatic speak. Or in Gene Edwards or Watchman Nee's case....poor articulation coming out of a guy who HAS had the touch of the Spirit deep on their lives.
The only thing in the Bible is a done deal.
The other rather surprising thing is as we pass through the veil (of flesh/of control/ of our fleshlife we have a real big shock.
It's like the River in Ezekiel.
The River is written from the point of view of a fallen man putting his tootsies, then his kneesies, then his middle into the River...
If it was written from a THRONE point of view all you'd see were tootsies, then kneesies then half a man or woman.
YOU SEE there is only One Life in the Universe. The Independent Self as such doesn't have an existence any more than Darkness has an existence at night. Just light a match and watch what a whole Universe of Darkness does to it. Errrrrr....nothing.
So flesh cannot say to itself...hmmm I think I'll die to myself today.
It's a delusion. It's a "double vision"....where Jesus says you must have a single eye. To see God only.
So the trick of prayer....or anything really....is exactly opposite to what we think would be the answer.
Let's take prayer...
The gentile or Anglican version...is to heap up prayers
Catholic wise....you use beads and Hail Marys
With Krishna....you say tons of Krishnas
With charismatics you heap up praying in tongues and hope after a certain amount of minutes you break through.
But the real thing as Jesus says is to Go into your Inner room
shut your leftbrain and surface senses door
and meet with your Father in secret....
WHY?
YOU HAVE TO FIND what Francois DuToit and Andre Rabe call the AUTHENTIC YOU....formed (Psalm 139) yes in the womb, but also brought forth from eternity past in the Bosom of the Father. Francois calls it the LOGOS or central THOUGHT of the Father...but he's incredibly leftbrain and thinks in terms of LOGIC.
Luckily you are also the Apple of His eye...and this is God's central Vison...which is rightbrain....and He loves you with all His heart...which is where you were conceived in Him....in His yearning for you.
So waiting upon the Lord is FINDING what already IS....from Eternity past.
The Cross is REAL. because the Devil's power is real. In the sense that it is God's life turned in on himself, the devil, self for self. There was no part of our inner core that didn't need to die. Like a fly in the ointment....you couldn't repackage and sell it in Harrods. It had to be cast out. So saying that flesh life is not real....does not mean it doesn't have an existence.....
It's more like self-consciousness
Let's look at this.
Part of growing up is going through that horrible teenage self-consciousness thing.
The self-consciousness doesn't really have any definite form or substance....it's like a shortcircuit more than a definite thing.
Part of confidence as an adult is being able to be REALLY ME in public....without all the naff self-consciousness and coyness seizing everything up.
As we set the mind on the Spirit we are looking and beholding the GENUINE PERSON OF GOD....and the GENUINE PERSON of US IN GOD. As we take steps to ACT OUT from this genuine Person...this is what living in the Spirit is.
The peace the Holy Spirit gives us at new birth is our umpire.
When we don't have peace about something we don't do it. As unborn again people we were only vaguely aware of what our innards were saying....as people circumcised in the heart...we are now more raw....and the more we set our minds on the Spirit the more acutely sensitive we are to what the Holy Spirit is really doing through us and what He is not.
The practice runs were charismatic meetings.
Satan's entire realm consists upon being able to coerce and organise people to do what God is not really doing. As soon as everybody on the planet lived by faith and chose faith and not sin....his entire operation would dry up in one day. WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.
Tuesday, 18 November 2014
Simply....Matthew Chapter 12
Matthew 12.............Chris Welch Facebook
The then official God kiddies...the Pharisees saw the new kids on the block picking grain out of hunger on the Sabbath. No matter that they'd been too busy in the gospel....that thing the Pharisees themselves should have been preaching but didn't!!!
Jesus more or less marched straight into the nearest synagogue...in Holy Spirit combat garb...and deliberately healed somebody on the Sabbath.
Hmmm two can play at this catching each other out game!!!
He'd already announced He was the Sabbath. "Now" He said...."look if your animal needs help you will give it to him on the Sabbath....and humans are even more precious." And then He healed a guy in front of everybody on the Sabbath.
You will find with demon spirits....and it's just the same on Facebook today, when a demon challenges you according to some leftbrain item or other.....as soon as you answer back even more reasonably....suddenly he is not playing with you anymore. They just want to kill you.
So then Jesus casts a demon out.
The religious demons in the Pharisees then accuse Jesus of having demons...."it's by Beelzebub He casts them out" they say.
"Well that makes no sense at all" says Jesus...how's Beelzebub's kingdom going to stand if he casts out his very own demons?
"OK...say I do cast them out by Beelzebul....so who do you cast them out by? "
Ofcourse the fact that they aren't able to cast anything out, acts to serve as a judge in a court effectively proving by which spirit they are driven....namely Beelzebub.
So He then really drives His point about religion home." If you are good...then live by the One who is good. If bad....then openly state you are doing so....but all this pretense of living from a good tree, then producinbg bad fruit....it's ridiculous!"
The religious spirit has got hold of them now....."OK Jesus PROVE yourself with a sign!"
"For the such as you, there is no sign!"
When a spirit is cast out and then returns to its house, finding it with no replacement owner....but empty and swept, it comes back with 7 more demons.
"Nice empty squat lads....wanna come and join me?"
The last condition of the house is far worse.
What the Jews experienced...the Church now experiences.
If we don't press right in to the New Covenant relationship promised in Jeremiah 31, our end condition is to be filled with more demons than we began with. If the only level of God stuff we were into was only a feeble feeble outward appearance of service....we are still in works....we are now in a place of extreme danger.
The Tribe of Dan became the central agency by which Satan could operate his main plans in the earth...down through Templars...Freemasonry....extreme forms of witchcraft. When the rest of the Jews rejected Jesus, they themselves entered this place of danger. Now Christians who never ever believed for a complete changeover at the Cross are being sucked into the One world machinery of Luciferianism
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The then official God kiddies...the Pharisees saw the new kids on the block picking grain out of hunger on the Sabbath. No matter that they'd been too busy in the gospel....that thing the Pharisees themselves should have been preaching but didn't!!!
Jesus more or less marched straight into the nearest synagogue...in Holy Spirit combat garb...and deliberately healed somebody on the Sabbath.
Hmmm two can play at this catching each other out game!!!
He'd already announced He was the Sabbath. "Now" He said...."look if your animal needs help you will give it to him on the Sabbath....and humans are even more precious." And then He healed a guy in front of everybody on the Sabbath.
You will find with demon spirits....and it's just the same on Facebook today, when a demon challenges you according to some leftbrain item or other.....as soon as you answer back even more reasonably....suddenly he is not playing with you anymore. They just want to kill you.
So then Jesus casts a demon out.
The religious demons in the Pharisees then accuse Jesus of having demons...."it's by Beelzebub He casts them out" they say.
"Well that makes no sense at all" says Jesus...how's Beelzebub's kingdom going to stand if he casts out his very own demons?
"OK...say I do cast them out by Beelzebul....so who do you cast them out by? "
Ofcourse the fact that they aren't able to cast anything out, acts to serve as a judge in a court effectively proving by which spirit they are driven....namely Beelzebub.
So He then really drives His point about religion home." If you are good...then live by the One who is good. If bad....then openly state you are doing so....but all this pretense of living from a good tree, then producinbg bad fruit....it's ridiculous!"
The religious spirit has got hold of them now....."OK Jesus PROVE yourself with a sign!"
"For the such as you, there is no sign!"
When a spirit is cast out and then returns to its house, finding it with no replacement owner....but empty and swept, it comes back with 7 more demons.
"Nice empty squat lads....wanna come and join me?"
The last condition of the house is far worse.
What the Jews experienced...the Church now experiences.
If we don't press right in to the New Covenant relationship promised in Jeremiah 31, our end condition is to be filled with more demons than we began with. If the only level of God stuff we were into was only a feeble feeble outward appearance of service....we are still in works....we are now in a place of extreme danger.
The Tribe of Dan became the central agency by which Satan could operate his main plans in the earth...down through Templars...Freemasonry....extreme forms of witchcraft. When the rest of the Jews rejected Jesus, they themselves entered this place of danger. Now Christians who never ever believed for a complete changeover at the Cross are being sucked into the One world machinery of Luciferianism
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Monday, 17 November 2014
Parable of the servants only doing as they ought!!!!
As the Power of God moves extraordinarily through them....LOL Luke 17:7-10
Chris Welch on Facebook...........15/11/2014
The default label is satan masquerading perfectly as me. Much of the christian life is just unearthing the scam in real time, so our life can truly begin to work.
The Bible way of saying that is
if you abide in my Word....abide is longer than an altar rail....then you shall truly be my disciples and you shall (begin to really )know the truth (and the effect of seeing the real stuff within you) shall REALLY set you free.
Baptism in the Spirit is the trailer of the film. Without the trailer you won't know what the film is about or even if it is the right film.
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Chris Welch Our true programming is recorded in Ezekiel 8:10...."the scrawlings on the temple walls". Whatever is written here WILL HAPPEN. Proverbs says the fears of a man will overtake him.His negative belief gives to that thing power.
When Jesus talks about our soil in the Parable of the seed, this is about what we really really desire, and or fear.
A pure heart is really that. A clean white wall available for God's own programme. His Kingdom. Satan has powers...especially under certain conditions and if those conditions and criteria are fulfilled.
Which is why you and I are being made unwilling participants in hidden secret rituals played out in the open in the Olympics, in ball games in massive pop events by mindcontrolled superstars like Miley Cyrus or Madonna. In Madonna's case, like Aleister Crowley she knows what she is doing. She is very high level.
But i say all that to say this..... God through His people is frightening. psalm 149.
That's why all the training. Now we don't have to have pyramids, and blank off one eye, and kill children, and many many other things. When the disciples asked...Jesus how do you do that stuff? and at another time....what must we be doing to do the work of God?
His two answers were equally as frustrating to the flesh.
The second was....believe in that LIFE that comes down from the Father, that you see in Me and that I have now given you. Just believe ON IT.....through everything.
The first was more cryptic still in the parable of the servants in the field.
Luke 17.5 The apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith!” 6 And the Lord said, “If you [e]had faith like a mustard seed, you would say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and be planted in the sea’; and it would [f]obey you.
7 “Which of you, having a slave plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field, ‘Come immediately and sit down to eat’? 8 But will he not say to him, ‘Prepare something for me to eat, and properly clothe yourself and serve me while I eat and drink; and]afterward you may eat and drink’? 9 He does not thank the slave because he did the things which were commanded, does he? 10 So you too, when you do all the things which are commanded you, say, ‘We are unworthy slaves; we have done only that which we ought to have done.’”
In bringing His saints into Kingdom power , there are two or three phases. Whether as Christians or nonChristians there is the first serving in the field stage. This is like Jesus working as a craftsman/carpenter.
Or God's people serving as slaves under Pharoah.
Or us before and after coming to know Him.
WHY IS GOD SO BEASTLY?
Well He isn't....you have to remember He is Emmanuel, God with us. He is feeling everything we feel as we feel it. He is NOT FAR OFF. But this is the way God gets our shoulder to the plough of being able to shift real world events in the Spirit by His faith. If we never really buckled under and committed to things.....we would never feel and engage with His intercession to change them. This is what David was reduced to in the wilderness under Saul's reign. His psalms show His desperation which mirrors our own.....but in the upside down Kingdom....this is us experiencing first hand THE NEED FOR CHANGE;and the INTENSE LONGING FOR CHANGE....
THE CRY OF DESPERATION isn't failure or weakness as Satan would regard it...and he certainly screams that down our lugholes (earholes) to discourage us.....the REALITY IS it's phase ONE of God MOVING.
Like the odd way of reckoning one day....NIGHT FIRST
"And there was evening and morning one day."
Phase two is odd too.
You'd have thought once the Israelites were out of Egypt the next week or 11 days journey hence they'd be raring to go, and installed in the new LAND.
Or after Jesus was baptised in the Spirit..".right that's it....gather a multitude with Benny Hinn banner advertising". But no...40 days in the wilderness.
Same with us....we might get a mighty entrance into God's Kingdom but we have to complete the first two phases of experiencing the servant life. Even after the field.... when we are brought into God's House we learn to serve God first.
"properly clothe yourself and serve me while I eat and drink;"
and God's got a big appetite. A lot of us are really disappointed because we expected the charismatic church to be it!!!! Why are all the people of the world not rushing in to be converted?
Revelation 3 says....Behold I stand at the door and Knock
if any man hears my voice and opens the door
I will come in and eat with Him
AND THEN HE ADDS......"and He with Me."
the Two winds prophecy on my blog is like this.
Normandy 1978 |
I had a long arduous lead up to it. I even had lots of egg on my face.
Then when I was sure He couldn't answer....He moved. I had a two week portion of it in France. The first morning the mother of the house had an epileptic fit, the electricity of God zapped through me, she was healed instantly and got her driving license back from an atheist french government a year later. The rest of the two weeks was packed with Holy Spirit events.
But after the preparation you feel numb. You are stabilized. You know it's not you. You almost watch it like a 2ndhand observer.....as Jesus says....
So you too, when you do all the things which are commanded you, say, ‘We are unworthy slaves; we have done only that which we ought to have done.’”..... it's automatic. It's part of you. it's just God being free to live and move unselfconsciously through you.
This is the acceleration of the Church we are now in. The story I told you was one person. I have other stories of Emsworth church. But I tell you.....not one of us has any idea of what a corporate Body moving across nations in the thirdlevel realm of full maturity in 1 John 2 looks like. Blistering Raw power on a level that Jesus could see afar off...but even the early church only scraped the surface...for example in Acts 4 when the room had an earthquake when they were praying....or various prison shaking events in Acts. This is just at the beginning of the Church.
Wednesday, 12 November 2014
Away with the False Luxury of Fragmentation
For 2000 years we have lived in the total luxury of a false realm in the church.
Acts was NOT like this. The Ephesians blueprint is so far from this I wonder any church on planet Earth has the cheek even to open any of its pages.
Slightly more obscurely, but you will see this clearer and clearer.......
THE FIRST THING. Got that.
THE FIRST THING that the returnees from Babylon did with Nehemiah and Ezra at the helm.....WAS RAISE every single WALL, and REBUILD ALL 12 GATES of Jerusalem. Google the GATES you will get 9 to 14 Gates....so some Jew somewhere will know about that....I am speaking by the Spirit in terms of total blue prints...probably 12 Gates.
Anglican and Catholics regard themselves as presenting a full blueprint of Christianity. Both, it is true have even allowed a measure of Holy Spirit movement within their borders.....but if I tell you that accounts for 2 only, of the GATES, the Fountain Gate...one off special baptism into the Holy Spirit...followed by the endless infillings and flow of walking in the Spirit represented by the Water Gate, you begin to get an idea how big church life is.
So if there are 12 Gates, how many sides are there to this gospel? How many sides or faces of Jesus to make a whole picture? There were 4 sides to the tabernacle and to the layout of all the 12 tribes, 3 positioned on each side.
So if there are 12 Gates, how many sides are there to this gospel? How many sides or faces of Jesus to make a whole picture? There were 4 sides to the tabernacle and to the layout of all the 12 tribes, 3 positioned on each side.
Geography, as you appreciate, has changed in the Spirit. “You will neither worship on this mountain, nor the one at Jerusalem.”
And, the Kingdom is neither “Lo Here” nor “Lo there”....but it is NIGH YOU even in your mouth.
And what does your mouth speak? That which proceeds from the abundance of your heart.
So these are NOT geographical sides.
So the whole 4 SIDE, 12 GATE gospel has to be in every individual's heart. And the good news is it is. JESUS CHRIST who is complete came to reside in your spirit as you. So the problem is one of expansion. This COMPLETE JESUS has to fill the rest of your heart, mind, will, strength and body. Immaturity is simply this.....the rest of you isn't matched up to your new state when you were born again.
The Bible phrase about mature people is....Hebrews 5.14 But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age (in Christ), even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Senses being both intelligence /thought and emotions/desires.
Psalm 84 says How blessed is the man whose strength is in You,
In whose heart are the highways to Zion!
The highways....the maps....the blueprints....the plans....of Zion.
Which blueprint? The heavenly Tabernacle from which the earthly was modelled.
And, the Kingdom is neither “Lo Here” nor “Lo there”....but it is NIGH YOU even in your mouth.
And what does your mouth speak? That which proceeds from the abundance of your heart.
So these are NOT geographical sides.
So the whole 4 SIDE, 12 GATE gospel has to be in every individual's heart. And the good news is it is. JESUS CHRIST who is complete came to reside in your spirit as you. So the problem is one of expansion. This COMPLETE JESUS has to fill the rest of your heart, mind, will, strength and body. Immaturity is simply this.....the rest of you isn't matched up to your new state when you were born again.
The Bible phrase about mature people is....Hebrews 5.14 But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age (in Christ), even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Senses being both intelligence /thought and emotions/desires.
Psalm 84 says How blessed is the man whose strength is in You,
In whose heart are the highways to Zion!
The highways....the maps....the blueprints....the plans....of Zion.
Which blueprint? The heavenly Tabernacle from which the earthly was modelled.
Moses saw the heavenly one on the mountain and the Holy Spirit showed Him how to make an earthly pattern of it.
4 One thing have I asked of the Lord, that will I seek, inquire for,and[insistently] require: that I may dwell in the house of the Lord [in His presence] all the days of my life, to behold and gaze upon the beauty [the sweet attractiveness and the delightful loveliness] of the Lord and to meditate, consider,and inquire in His temple.
4 One thing have I asked of the Lord, that will I seek, inquire for,and[insistently] require: that I may dwell in the house of the Lord [in His presence] all the days of my life, to behold and gaze upon the beauty [the sweet attractiveness and the delightful loveliness] of the Lord and to meditate, consider,and inquire in His temple.
This really makes no sense until like David the Holy Spirit has begun making you into a kind of psalmist....whether actually musical or not....God catches us up in the holy Spirit and begins revealing to us spiritual things of HOW THE KINGDOM IS NOW IN HEAVEN and how we are to call this state, and intercede for this to manifest in our time space world. Thy Kingdom Come.
We begin comparing more and more spiritual things with spiritual. More and more begins to make sense.
The FOUR SIDES or faces of the Living Creatures with “seeing eyes” all round them are similar to the four gospel writers too.
Matthew, regal, an organiser, a KINGDOM man, interested in the legalities...fixing the genealogies...a bottom line man...some would say a pragmatist....a “What does this mean at the end of the day” kind of man. Represented by the Lion Face
Mark , represents the man of action, the servant, a very high call in our day....the people who get the job done, the FEET of the Kingdom walking it out...practical people person. The Calf/ Bull pulling ploughs, trudging furrows uncomplaining
Luke...has similar attributes to Matthew but just far more detailed, in depth planning, represents the human face of Jesus in the gospels, the mind of man, the doctor, the one asked to write a “second account” , namely Acts, because his first was so detailed and well written. The Human Face
John, soars like an eagle into the very dwelling places of God...literally in his Revelation of Jesus which culminates the New testament. Yet there's something meticulous about John in the Spirit.
The gospel of John, few have realised, because it is so so different from the other three “biographies of Jesus”. It is topographically perfect though, like the London Underground Map, which is NO ordnance Survey map, but it tells you everything a traveller needs to know. John gives you all the main spiritual stops through the three stages of spiritual growth in 1 John 2, beginning with being born again in John 3. He represents the soaring EAGLE nature of God's Spirit within us.
MINISTRIES
Paul Noble shares
Matthew (Apostle) kingly Gospel , Mark (Evangelist), John (Prophet) and Luke (Physician Pastor/Teacher)
WEAKNESSES
We begin comparing more and more spiritual things with spiritual. More and more begins to make sense.
The FOUR SIDES or faces of the Living Creatures with “seeing eyes” all round them are similar to the four gospel writers too.
Matthew, regal, an organiser, a KINGDOM man, interested in the legalities...fixing the genealogies...a bottom line man...some would say a pragmatist....a “What does this mean at the end of the day” kind of man. Represented by the Lion Face
Mark , represents the man of action, the servant, a very high call in our day....the people who get the job done, the FEET of the Kingdom walking it out...practical people person. The Calf/ Bull pulling ploughs, trudging furrows uncomplaining
Luke...has similar attributes to Matthew but just far more detailed, in depth planning, represents the human face of Jesus in the gospels, the mind of man, the doctor, the one asked to write a “second account” , namely Acts, because his first was so detailed and well written. The Human Face
John, soars like an eagle into the very dwelling places of God...literally in his Revelation of Jesus which culminates the New testament. Yet there's something meticulous about John in the Spirit.
The gospel of John, few have realised, because it is so so different from the other three “biographies of Jesus”. It is topographically perfect though, like the London Underground Map, which is NO ordnance Survey map, but it tells you everything a traveller needs to know. John gives you all the main spiritual stops through the three stages of spiritual growth in 1 John 2, beginning with being born again in John 3. He represents the soaring EAGLE nature of God's Spirit within us.
MINISTRIES
Paul Noble shares
Matthew (Apostle) kingly Gospel , Mark (Evangelist), John (Prophet) and Luke (Physician Pastor/Teacher)
WEAKNESSES
Matthews can DOMINATE....can revert back to “lording it over one another as the gentiles do”
Can totally miss the importance of over detailed Luke, of simple sheep like Mark, of fluffy way out people like John.
Marks can tend to see the whole gospel in terms of works. Of doing. Of being practical. Which it is....but not to the exclusion of all else. Marks can be Marthas, who refuse to sit still long enough to hear the whole blueprint from Jesus. Remember Mary her sister was commended. They REALLY do not like DOMINATORS. And perhaps rightly they get annoyed with Lukes who are so detailed they often don't get started.
Lukes as mentioned can be so anal in detail, the others have gone off independently and done it all.
- Can be over rigid about detail. Details change as situations change. Can be very impatient with the looser types. Not so human and warm to be with.
Johns can be so authoritative in the Spirit they forget that we have been put on earth to live out our days quite practically. They need reeling in every so often. The mystery of Christ is that what seems mundane and day to day is actually a beautiful expression of the Christ Life itself emerging from the low, serving places with an incredible authority also....which can be quite a shock for Johns, who can tend to pick up their authority exclusively from heavenly touches.
So to conclude, those are the fragments of this status, now let's assemble them .
For I began by saying "For 2000 years we have lived in the total luxury of a false realm in the church.Acts was NOT like this."
Can totally miss the importance of over detailed Luke, of simple sheep like Mark, of fluffy way out people like John.
Marks can tend to see the whole gospel in terms of works. Of doing. Of being practical. Which it is....but not to the exclusion of all else. Marks can be Marthas, who refuse to sit still long enough to hear the whole blueprint from Jesus. Remember Mary her sister was commended. They REALLY do not like DOMINATORS. And perhaps rightly they get annoyed with Lukes who are so detailed they often don't get started.
Lukes as mentioned can be so anal in detail, the others have gone off independently and done it all.
- Can be over rigid about detail. Details change as situations change. Can be very impatient with the looser types. Not so human and warm to be with.
Johns can be so authoritative in the Spirit they forget that we have been put on earth to live out our days quite practically. They need reeling in every so often. The mystery of Christ is that what seems mundane and day to day is actually a beautiful expression of the Christ Life itself emerging from the low, serving places with an incredible authority also....which can be quite a shock for Johns, who can tend to pick up their authority exclusively from heavenly touches.
So to conclude, those are the fragments of this status, now let's assemble them .
For I began by saying "For 2000 years we have lived in the total luxury of a false realm in the church.Acts was NOT like this."
I will explain the false realm. 1 John 2 clearly states the different growth stages of Christians. Now the first church had all three levels of spirituality simultaneously working out together. All types of folk. And the living tension and dynamism of living amongst that all at once is called in Revelation the Woman bringing forth the Manchild.
So while we may enjoy the luxury of fragmentation, with first levellers in one church, 2ndlevellers in another sort of church, and thirdlevellers playing bo peep, diving in and out between it all.....there is NO CHANCE of fulfilling
a. that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places. Eph 3.10
there is NO CHANCE of
b. The Woman giving Birth to the Manchild in a locality Rev 12.1 and 5
AND THERE IS NO CHANCE OF
c. like the Queen of Sheba coming to see Solomon.....also Isaiah 60 “ And nations shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. “
and the phrase when I be lifted up I will draw all men unto Me
and finally...the local fulfilment of the Jewish harvest cycle being fulfilled by a mature church who has gone through that entire cycle in the Holy Spirit culminating in the “Feast of Ingathering” or Day of Visitation....or Open Day....which you can find in the last Feast....Tabernacles.
When we say to the carriers of the blueprints...those in whose hearts are the highways to Zion...
“Blessed are you who come in the NAME OF THE LORD” then shall such a set of local churches and churches in nations arise, who will be of this order.
R. Edward Miller in many decades and Basilea Schlink in her Darmstadt community were forerunners of this complete cycle of outworking. As also was Graham Pulkingham as he exported his community over from Houston to our shores.
This is a much higher vision than anything we have at present in our prototype network communities in the UK or the States which have largely become jammed around personality cults rather than keeping each individual eyes on the real Tabernacle and the wonderful Lord of the Tabernacle.
ADDENDUM
To further strengthen what the Spirit is saying through highlighting the terrible "WASTE OF LUXURY", once more read a combination of these scriptures.
1 Corinthians 12 from verse 4
Note Well: varieties of gifts, varieties of ministries, varieties of effects.
some upbuild...impart faith
some are physical effects
some build the Body expressly
some DIVIDE as in DIVIDE mixture....think Jesus statement "Why do you call Me good?(I will not be related to or flattered as 'an independently' good man")
12 For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
(How many remember being in boring old style churches while these passages were read out like some magic mystical language that you endured but never thought it could be real....not really real. And ofcourse once everyone is born again and has had a real baptism in the Spirit experience it is suddenly all so real.)
14 For the body is not one member, but many.
15 If the foot says, “Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason [k]any the less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear says, “Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason [l]any the less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. 19 If they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now there are many members, but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; or again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 On the contrary, [m]it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary; 23 and those members of the body which we [n]deem less honorable, [o]on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable, 24 whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, 25 so that there may be no [p]division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is [q]honored, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it. 28 And God has [r]appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. 29 All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they? 30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? 31 But earnestly desire the greater gifts.
The Body is SUPERNATURAL
With all these gifts flying around can you now understand Ephesians 4.....the HOW
but [i]speaking the truth in love, [j]we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together [k]by what every joint supplies, according to the [l]proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
The Gifts are the EXPRESS start.....they are given straight after new birth and being filled with the Spirit. Later as Christ roots Himself in your being you are more able to share out of the "oil that you have directly bought from the shops yourself." SEE Matthew 25.1-12. The wise virgins were secretly preparing flasks of oil on the side!!!!! unbeknownst to the rest.
The Luxury of Fragmentation is so NEGATIVE
1 It prevents the hyper accelerated growth of the Body of Christ in all ways, in all levels, in all effects.
2. It promotes sickness and death within the members themselves.
1 Corinthians11 .27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. 30 For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number [s]sleep. 31 But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord so that we will not be condemned along with the world.
Who is Jesus in you? Who is Jesus in your brother?
False judgment is simply your leftbrain doing loop the loops with reality.
If someone is a drunkard...you don't deny it....in order to see Jesus...but "outer appearances are so often wrong". Get everything in the HolySpirit.
The devil is out to slander each and every brother and sister in your mind.
And don't be naive all of us fight temptations....Jesus did too until His final announcement in the upper room.
Just because a brother falls it doesn't mean Jesus Christ isn't living his or her life...it means they have been temporarily deceived. "Restore with gentleness is the phrase....looking to yourself lest you be next!!!!"
Those are big issues. I think by far the worst stink in first and secondlevel churches is that everyone still sees themselves and other people after the flesh.
As independent people. Instead of seeing what "separation thinking" is...that is to say,the falsehood that we can live for a second as independent beings....the complete farce sold us in genesis 3.
Rightly DISCERN the Body of Christ....Jesus living His life out through every Body member. People will try to fake this with leftbrain adjustments. You cannot fake it. You have to KNOW and live from Galatians 2:20 as consciousness.....and once you have grabbed this as your Life....you can see any fakeries. Everybody sees in the longrun because bad fruit leeches out.
There is only ONE WAY to the TRUTH and the LIFE in Jesus!!!
Mind Control....Inuring....Bringer of Light-ism
Mind Control ...posh phrase for spells....Inuring,,,,Infiltration into Light Systems.....and humor
Rothschild hates the term Satanist.He worships Lucifer or the other name Apollo.He is quite open about it and he has a Temple to Apollo in his Waddesdon Garden, where you and I would have a jacuzzi.
The current Luciferian drive is to get all Facebookers to understand Shatan as something quite different. (which means Resistor/adversary) Well, don't you think the Bringer of Light would say that? (meaning of Lucifer)
The gospel of John is about Light. Light for those brought up in the West, is inner seeing. If you think of yourself as upperclass you will move in those realms. Noel Coward was a London boy from a normal background whose "inner guiding Light" was that he was a toff. He learned to speak as one and the rest is more or less history. Other people think of themselves as "white trash" or UK chavs and that is their inner Light and that is where they stay.
If you have quite a "posh" inner Light somewhere up the extreme end of the Tree of Good...you can think like the religious man in John Chapter 3 that you have more or less got it made. Then Jesus comes up and says things like...the Tree of Good is not where it's at....your LIGHT must be heavenly LIGHT and to even see it you have to be reborn and relearn everything you ever knew again in that NEW LIGHT.(John 3)
Lucifer really has only one shot at stealing rule from mankind, the rightful rulers of earth. If he tried ruling through Darkness...like Communism and Fascism, he might be successful for a while...but as it's Darkness it's a bit of a giveaway. So his one shot is to come as if he was Light. As if he was authority. As if he was knowledgeable. Then once our LIGHT system is infiltrated, he rips the rulership right out of our hands.
Genesis 3 sees him come as an authoritative advisor.
If I am right, the devil never actually lies. In English it is translated as a lie: you shall surely not die?
But if I am correct in the Spirit....and the devil loves legalities....he only laughs at the whole idea making Adam and Eve look stupid. Because Adam DID die and the devil knew perfectly that he would.....and if he said an outright lie he could be accused, so he insinuated with a question and a guffaw, making it Adam's decision.
"You don't believe that do you?"
"Errrr....no ofcourse not"
Wrong deed.
" You're now dead Adam." Shame. Fear. "Quick....God's coming. Hide."
The Catholic church is totally infiltrated with the Light bringer
Then the Templars...those brave knights of old were infiltrated by Luciferians. So bad actually, the Pope ordered them all exterminated, and they fled to Scotland and formed many many of the Scottish occult dynasties. The hidden confusing side of Scottish/ English history which Sharma and Starkey only seem to know very vaguely...is how much Bloodline families have directed both countries in ruinous ways. Looking like LIGHT...they are always Darkness. Their greatest coup is to erase their presence from the history books, through one of the ruling houses, who by owning most of our information systems, keeps it erased.
Here's a wonderful thing....TRUE LIGHT exposes FAKE LIGHT. Very easily.
Here's another thing. Even though Westerners are brought up unlike Easterners.....they STILL HAVE the gadgets to do with INNER LIGHT they just don't know it.Or they call it a stomachache. or a headache..... or they feel queasy.
So Lucfierians disguised as LIGHT...that is, among our Judges, our politicians, our industry leaders.....(see Jon Ronson's book on Psychopathic CEOs) can pass laws or push for laws.....and even if they are passed....we can tell inwardly which spirit they come from. If we still continue living in our leftbrains in the West, we will then praise abortion, living together, euthanasia, kids learning about how to use a condom at 7....any of these things if people provide enough good BBC airtime and documentaries....
but inwardly , even the most LIGHT BLIND have twinges.
So the pattern is to look authoritative.
To LAUGH at the "old things" and "old ways"
And one of these systems is by "inuring". "By leftbrain pigeonholing". By Classification.
Jesus shut up a lot of demons when He was walking down the street. Because they were doing their "inuring" and "pigeonholing" work.
They would shout out "Behold the Son of God", and before He'd even begun to speak.
It's something like the extremes of a flasher versus romantic joining of hearts.
How can you get over what is happening?
It's something like the extremes of a flasher versus romantic joining of hearts.
Too much disclosure too soon wrecks any chance of the actual holy Romantic stuff connected with true relating ever happening. And in demon's case....they do the flashing for you. That is they make out that Jesus is the flasher. That at least is the destructive spirit behind them yelling out through troubled people...."behold Jesus the son of God"....especially if done in a jeery way.
Something milder occurs...well only slightly milder occurs in Religious instruction in schools. It's like a leftbrain rape of knowledge that should come by loving tender revelation through the heart by actually knowing Jesus. The teachers themselves don't know or they would never be part of it, but this is actually the Luciferian programme behind RE in school. And by shutting down every possiblity of the real Presence of God
banning Christian meetings/gatherings
banning preaching and certainly Holy Spirit preaching
a child can now only glean anything of Christianity at all from leftbrain inurement, from similar in the Simpsons or South Park, from the odd morguelike family funeral, from embarrassed leftbrain teachers holding the last vestiges of Christian assembly. Luciferians dressed as Light and our own authoritative structures have virtually shut down Christianity from everything but the older dying age group's BBC Songs of Praise.....and you know what....not knowing anything about how the Blood Dynasties operate....Fritz Springmeier's work is unknown in Britain....Christians have sat there and let them do it. Let's have a secular culture.
But 50% -70% believe in some kind of god.....so how is that secular? Why should 50% of nonbelievers tell us how we are going to live. Is that democracy?
If I want to pray with others at school, work, or elsewhere, then I am jolly well going to do it. if you don't wish to, that also is your prerogative...but you are not going to dictate to me how you think I should practice my religion. I already step over backwards for your inferior beliefs that everything should run from a tiny slender front leftbrain cortex called rational thought. The whole brain is rational, it just has its own rules its own inner rationalities for each part...you wombats....Don't try to impose your stupid archaic views of how the brain works on my more enlightened position!
Love, apart from as some intellectual ideal, certainly isn't leftbrain.
Music has laws and that's in the rightbrain.
Spatial recognition has its laws and that is rightbrain
Whether christian or not healing prayers or reiki is rightbrain
Very little apart from step by step assessment of logical parameters and then talking about those parameters actually gets done in the leftbrain, yet this is the whole of the dictated order that is imposed through school and on into the" money is the bottom line" workplace and tax collection machine.
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Rothschild hates the term Satanist.He worships Lucifer or the other name Apollo.He is quite open about it and he has a Temple to Apollo in his Waddesdon Garden, where you and I would have a jacuzzi.
The current Luciferian drive is to get all Facebookers to understand Shatan as something quite different. (which means Resistor/adversary) Well, don't you think the Bringer of Light would say that? (meaning of Lucifer)
The gospel of John is about Light. Light for those brought up in the West, is inner seeing. If you think of yourself as upperclass you will move in those realms. Noel Coward was a London boy from a normal background whose "inner guiding Light" was that he was a toff. He learned to speak as one and the rest is more or less history. Other people think of themselves as "white trash" or UK chavs and that is their inner Light and that is where they stay.
If you have quite a "posh" inner Light somewhere up the extreme end of the Tree of Good...you can think like the religious man in John Chapter 3 that you have more or less got it made. Then Jesus comes up and says things like...the Tree of Good is not where it's at....your LIGHT must be heavenly LIGHT and to even see it you have to be reborn and relearn everything you ever knew again in that NEW LIGHT.(John 3)
Lucifer really has only one shot at stealing rule from mankind, the rightful rulers of earth. If he tried ruling through Darkness...like Communism and Fascism, he might be successful for a while...but as it's Darkness it's a bit of a giveaway. So his one shot is to come as if he was Light. As if he was authority. As if he was knowledgeable. Then once our LIGHT system is infiltrated, he rips the rulership right out of our hands.
Genesis 3 sees him come as an authoritative advisor.
If I am right, the devil never actually lies. In English it is translated as a lie: you shall surely not die?
But if I am correct in the Spirit....and the devil loves legalities....he only laughs at the whole idea making Adam and Eve look stupid. Because Adam DID die and the devil knew perfectly that he would.....and if he said an outright lie he could be accused, so he insinuated with a question and a guffaw, making it Adam's decision.
"You don't believe that do you?"
"Errrr....no ofcourse not"
Wrong deed.
" You're now dead Adam." Shame. Fear. "Quick....God's coming. Hide."
The Catholic church is totally infiltrated with the Light bringer
Then the Templars...those brave knights of old were infiltrated by Luciferians. So bad actually, the Pope ordered them all exterminated, and they fled to Scotland and formed many many of the Scottish occult dynasties. The hidden confusing side of Scottish/ English history which Sharma and Starkey only seem to know very vaguely...is how much Bloodline families have directed both countries in ruinous ways. Looking like LIGHT...they are always Darkness. Their greatest coup is to erase their presence from the history books, through one of the ruling houses, who by owning most of our information systems, keeps it erased.
Here's a wonderful thing....TRUE LIGHT exposes FAKE LIGHT. Very easily.
Here's another thing. Even though Westerners are brought up unlike Easterners.....they STILL HAVE the gadgets to do with INNER LIGHT they just don't know it.Or they call it a stomachache. or a headache..... or they feel queasy.
So Lucfierians disguised as LIGHT...that is, among our Judges, our politicians, our industry leaders.....(see Jon Ronson's book on Psychopathic CEOs) can pass laws or push for laws.....and even if they are passed....we can tell inwardly which spirit they come from. If we still continue living in our leftbrains in the West, we will then praise abortion, living together, euthanasia, kids learning about how to use a condom at 7....any of these things if people provide enough good BBC airtime and documentaries....
but inwardly , even the most LIGHT BLIND have twinges.
So the pattern is to look authoritative.
To LAUGH at the "old things" and "old ways"
And one of these systems is by "inuring". "By leftbrain pigeonholing". By Classification.
Jesus shut up a lot of demons when He was walking down the street. Because they were doing their "inuring" and "pigeonholing" work.
They would shout out "Behold the Son of God", and before He'd even begun to speak.
It's something like the extremes of a flasher versus romantic joining of hearts.
surreal flasher example |
How can you get over what is happening?
It's something like the extremes of a flasher versus romantic joining of hearts.
Too much disclosure too soon wrecks any chance of the actual holy Romantic stuff connected with true relating ever happening. And in demon's case....they do the flashing for you. That is they make out that Jesus is the flasher. That at least is the destructive spirit behind them yelling out through troubled people...."behold Jesus the son of God"....especially if done in a jeery way.
Something milder occurs...well only slightly milder occurs in Religious instruction in schools. It's like a leftbrain rape of knowledge that should come by loving tender revelation through the heart by actually knowing Jesus. The teachers themselves don't know or they would never be part of it, but this is actually the Luciferian programme behind RE in school. And by shutting down every possiblity of the real Presence of God
banning Christian meetings/gatherings
banning preaching and certainly Holy Spirit preaching
a child can now only glean anything of Christianity at all from leftbrain inurement, from similar in the Simpsons or South Park, from the odd morguelike family funeral, from embarrassed leftbrain teachers holding the last vestiges of Christian assembly. Luciferians dressed as Light and our own authoritative structures have virtually shut down Christianity from everything but the older dying age group's BBC Songs of Praise.....and you know what....not knowing anything about how the Blood Dynasties operate....Fritz Springmeier's work is unknown in Britain....Christians have sat there and let them do it. Let's have a secular culture.
But 50% -70% believe in some kind of god.....so how is that secular? Why should 50% of nonbelievers tell us how we are going to live. Is that democracy?
If I want to pray with others at school, work, or elsewhere, then I am jolly well going to do it. if you don't wish to, that also is your prerogative...but you are not going to dictate to me how you think I should practice my religion. I already step over backwards for your inferior beliefs that everything should run from a tiny slender front leftbrain cortex called rational thought. The whole brain is rational, it just has its own rules its own inner rationalities for each part...you wombats....Don't try to impose your stupid archaic views of how the brain works on my more enlightened position!
Love, apart from as some intellectual ideal, certainly isn't leftbrain.
Music has laws and that's in the rightbrain.
Spatial recognition has its laws and that is rightbrain
Whether christian or not healing prayers or reiki is rightbrain
Very little apart from step by step assessment of logical parameters and then talking about those parameters actually gets done in the leftbrain, yet this is the whole of the dictated order that is imposed through school and on into the" money is the bottom line" workplace and tax collection machine.
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Tuesday, 11 November 2014
The Collective Insanity of Humanity by Carlos Iggy Shelton
Source: emerging thought in Montana
The other day I found this article: Study: Belief in an angry God associated with a variety of mental illnesses It sort of confirmed some of my experience dealing with certain people as well as my own experiences. It also confirmed some ideas I have began to see in the Bible.
I do not believe that someone becomes mentally ill by believing in an angry God, but rather it exasperates the person's condition. I see that while you may suffer from OCD, the idea that God may not accept you as "clean" and is angry may contribute to the need to have things clean and orderly.
I have seen on a personal level people who "hatefully" abuse others in the name of love. They seem to think that attacking others is a way to bring them into a right relationship with God. However, if you believe God may just bring the hammer (or strike you with lightening) for your sins, they missed the whole point of the Cross and Resurrection. I began to understand that God was angry with sin in humanity but has never gone back on His proclamation that His creation, humanity, is nothing other than good.
I have a working theory on how we as humans live in what I call the collective insanity of humanity (catchy huh?). Meaning that there is a reality that is "in Christ" and a false reality we choose to live in by choosing our fallen state instead. The origin of this thought comes from re-reading the "curse" of Adam and Eve as not a punishment, but rather of consequence. God gave Adam and Eve a chance to come clean yet they choose to live in shame instead.
I also began to realize how this is true as I began to study a family member's illness who possibly has schizophrenia. She lives in a false reality that is "true" to her. She hears the voice that no one else does, thus in her mind it is real. However it is a false reality as there are no real voices to be heard. These observations have set me on some interesting twists in my own theology and how I see many of the stories in the OT as well as the NT. However, it has also opened me up to loving those who suffer mental illness in a deeper way.
It does seem that often an angry person who believes in an angry, wrathful, God, becomes like the God he or she believes in. It also seems that there is a major impairment in reading comprehension and compassion to the point that the person cannot accept that God could possibly love others if they are not exactly as they believe their God requires. It also seems that he or she has a need to point out worse "sinners" as a means to show that they are not as bad as that in hopes they have a chance at judgment day. Over all, it is a sad condition and my prayers go out for those who suffer in this way.
POSTED BY CARLOS SHELTON AT 10/23/2014 05:32:00 AM
The other day I found this article: Study: Belief in an angry God associated with a variety of mental illnesses It sort of confirmed some of my experience dealing with certain people as well as my own experiences. It also confirmed some ideas I have began to see in the Bible.
I do not believe that someone becomes mentally ill by believing in an angry God, but rather it exasperates the person's condition. I see that while you may suffer from OCD, the idea that God may not accept you as "clean" and is angry may contribute to the need to have things clean and orderly.
I have seen on a personal level people who "hatefully" abuse others in the name of love. They seem to think that attacking others is a way to bring them into a right relationship with God. However, if you believe God may just bring the hammer (or strike you with lightening) for your sins, they missed the whole point of the Cross and Resurrection. I began to understand that God was angry with sin in humanity but has never gone back on His proclamation that His creation, humanity, is nothing other than good.
the "angry God" |
I have a working theory on how we as humans live in what I call the collective insanity of humanity (catchy huh?). Meaning that there is a reality that is "in Christ" and a false reality we choose to live in by choosing our fallen state instead. The origin of this thought comes from re-reading the "curse" of Adam and Eve as not a punishment, but rather of consequence. God gave Adam and Eve a chance to come clean yet they choose to live in shame instead.
I also began to realize how this is true as I began to study a family member's illness who possibly has schizophrenia. She lives in a false reality that is "true" to her. She hears the voice that no one else does, thus in her mind it is real. However it is a false reality as there are no real voices to be heard. These observations have set me on some interesting twists in my own theology and how I see many of the stories in the OT as well as the NT. However, it has also opened me up to loving those who suffer mental illness in a deeper way.
It does seem that often an angry person who believes in an angry, wrathful, God, becomes like the God he or she believes in. It also seems that there is a major impairment in reading comprehension and compassion to the point that the person cannot accept that God could possibly love others if they are not exactly as they believe their God requires. It also seems that he or she has a need to point out worse "sinners" as a means to show that they are not as bad as that in hopes they have a chance at judgment day. Over all, it is a sad condition and my prayers go out for those who suffer in this way.
POSTED BY CARLOS SHELTON AT 10/23/2014 05:32:00 AM
Monday, 10 November 2014
Mother Basilea Schlink searches for the Key
from chapter 2 http://www.canaaninthedesert.com/books/my_all_for_him.pdf
For a long time I could not find the key, the answer to my question‘ What is true discipleship? What does Jesus want? On the one hand, He calls us to an uncompromising discipleship: to give up everything, to lose our lives. He calls us to leave father and mother. on the other hand, we are to honour father and mother. '
For a long time I could not find the key, the answer to my question‘ What is true discipleship? What does Jesus want? On the one hand, He calls us to an uncompromising discipleship: to give up everything, to lose our lives. He calls us to leave father and mother. on the other hand, we are to honour father and mother. '
The Bible also says that the whole creation is the work
of God’s hands. Since human intelligence and skills are part of
that whole creation, should not those aspects of human civili-
zation and culture that are “true. noble, right, pure, lovely, and
honorable” (Philippians 4:8 TIN) be held in high esteem? But if
we give up everything and live a life of uncompromising disci-
pleship, we become ascetic escapists, rejecting everything God
has given. Surely that cannot be right. So what is the answer?
Many voices reached my ears. Leaders from a variety of
Christian traditions tried to convince me that theirs was the only
way.
One view was that, as the body of Christ, we should dissociate
ourselves from our contemporaries, virtually leaving the perishing
to perish. In addition, we were not to concern ourselves with events
of national significance. Discouraged from exploring the worlds of
art, music, and literature, we were not even to enjoy nature. We were
to live in one realm only-the Word of God and the fellowship of
believers.
For a while I went along with this, but the reality proved dis-
appointing. Those who subscribed to this view tended to be Joyless
and lacking in thanksgiving for the heavenly Father’s good gifts.
Gratitude for the revelation of His awesome greatness in nature was
somehow missing. Furthermore, I often found such people narrow-
minded and rigid, lacking love for others. At the same time they
were very self-righteous, convinced that they had a monopoly of the truth.
Then I heard a very different view, and this, too, I explored.
Here were people who were more open, loving, natural, and
relaxed. I discovered more of the love and warmth of Jesus in their
lives and personalities than I had found in the others. 'These peo-
ple did not insist that they alone were the Body of Christ. Actu-
ally, they did not speak very much at all about their conversion
and seemed to be quite at home in the world. Yet this very point
made me uneasy Often they had so conformed to the world
that they appeared to have lost sight of Scripture’s warnings:
“Do not love the world” (1 John 2:15); “Do not be conformed to
this world” (Romans 12:2); “Do not be mismated with unbeliev-
ers” (2 Corinthians 6214). They seemed to have forgotten that the
Bible calls us as Christians to follow Jesus and go the way of the cross,
dying to self and doing without.
Still I wondered, What did God want? What was His way? At
all costs I wanted to walk In the way of the Lord After following
first the one path for several years and then the other, I still did
not feel that I had found His way. But eventually He did answer
my plea to lead me “in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake”
(Psalm 23:3) that one dayI might reach the goal of heavenly glory.
First, though, He had to show me the truth about myself before
He could show me the right way. He had to bring me to the point
of spiritual bankruptcy so that I would weep over my sin and see
myself for the sinner I was. It was at a time when I had difliculty
in getting on with someone who made life extremely hard for me.
Resentful and bitter, I could see no way out We seemed to be
hopelessly at odds. I knew this was not right Yet I was helpless in
the situation, unable to resolve it, not knowing how to overcome.
Then the Lord showed me that I was to blame. Had I been
loving and merciful towards this woman, she would have been
won over. The Lord convicted me of my sin, giving me tears
of repentance. And this experience drove me into the arms of
Jesus, because Jesus and the penitent sinner belong together. Iesus
began to reveal Himself to me in His love. It was no longer a mat-
ter of any particular teaching-Jesus Himself was the answer. My
intellectual questions began to fade into the background All I
wanted was to love Him who had forgiven my sins, redeemed me
and loved me so dearly. He was now the great love of my life.
To me He had become the “fat rest of the sons of men” (Psalm
45:2). The Jewel of my heart, the joy of all joys, He was dearer to
me than anyone or anything else. With Paul Gerhardt, I could
raise my voice in song:
God is the greatest, the dearest and noblest,
God is the greatest, the dearest and noblest,
Faithful and worthy, unchanging and true,
Best of all treasures, delight of my heart.
He is indeed the dearest of all-He of whom the psalmist
writes, “You give them drink from your river of delights” (Psalm
36:8 NIV). Having drunk from this river, I came to love Him more
and more.
My love for Him helped me find the answer to my ques-
tions. I had found the key-love for Jesus, first love, bridal love.
Love became my teacher. I saw that following Jesus had nothing
to do with asceticism; I saw that it did not mean renouncing and
forsaking the things of this world just for the sake of it. Suddenly
I was struck by the significance of the phrase used by Jesus when
calling someone to uncompromising discipleship: “for My sake”-
“for My name’s sake.” In other words, we are called to tread this
path of uncompromising discipleship out of love for Him. Walk-
ing in His steps, we draw very near to the One we love. And this
is what true bridal love is all about: being as close as possible to
the beloved.
Having shown me that uncompromising discipleship is a
free-will decision springing from love, He further revealed that
love is the key to Christian freedom. Being the very essence of
love, would Jesus not have relaxed at times with His disciples,
enjoying God’s good gifts? And did He not draw their attention
to the beauty of nature-"Consider the lilies of the field... even
Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these”
(Matthew 6:28-29)? 80 I, too, was able to enjoy nature-not apart
from Him, but with Him, being joined to Him in love.
Now the gifts of the Creator were no longer remote from
me, nor were they to be avoided lest they divert me from true dis-
cipleship. Rather, they were tokens of the Father’s love. I could en-
joy them in the right spirit because they Inspired me with thanks-
giving and an even greater love for God. I could take pleasure in
the beauty of art and music, for instance, seeing the glory of God
reflected in them. I was no longer in danger of getting into bond-
age or being sidetracked from my commitment to Jesus. I could
make use of the things of the world insofar as they deepened my
love and commitment to Jesus, inspired me with thanksgiving to
the Father, or increased the effectiveness of my ministry.
Now everything took on a different appearance. Previously,
when I had been trying to lead an ascetic life, I scarcely dared to
travel, but now I felt free to do so. Now the motivation was dif-
ferent. In later years, in order to give the Creator glory, I made
“praise trips” to scenic spots where praise plaques with a Scrip-
ture or song verse would be set up as a pointer to God, inspiring
others to offer Him love, praise, and thanksgiving. Similarly, I was
blessed when I saw pictures of the marvels of creation or pictures
of the beautiful locations in various countries where God had
met with me in a special way. Previously, too, I scarcely dared to
admire religious art But now, when I saw pictures of Jesus, I was
filled with greater love and thanksgiving. And all this, in turn,
had an impact on my ministry, enabling me to glorify Him more.
No longer did I feel cut off from my fellow countrymen,
aware only of belonging to the Body of Christ. Now that I
shared in the concerns of God’s fatherly heart, I loved my peo-
ple and all other peoples, because each originates in the Crea-
tor’s heart, reflecting something of His love and glory. Now I
felt pain when my nation turned from God and rejected His
felt pain when my nation turned from God and rejected His
commandments, knowing how this grieved the Father’s heart.
According to Scripture, although Israel had a special place
in God’s heart, He was concerned at the prospect of having to
destroy pagan Nineveh (Jonah 4:11). And in the light of impend-
ing judgment, I came to feel deep concern for my people.
All my questions had been answered. More than that, now
I was free. In the past I had feared being trapped either in a life
that was too narrow and legalistic or in a life that too readily con-
formed to the world, neither of which seemed to be true disciple-
ship. Now I had entered the freedom of a child of God, because
love bound me to Him completely. Now I belonged unreserved-
ly to the One who is the centre of the universe and from whom
comes all that is good and noble on earth. In the fellowship of
His love I could share in everything that is His-the earth and
the whole universe. Though broadened, my love always remained
firmly anchored in Him, the focal point of the universe.
Just as I had been unhappy and torn with inner conflict be-
fore I found this answer, so I was happy and at peace afterward.
Joy had come into my life, because I had found the One who loves
me and whom I was privileged to love above all else, with all my
strength and being. And for many years now I have gone through
life with Jesus as the Bridegroom of my soul. I could never find
enough ways to tell Jesus how much I love Him and to praise Him
in song as the loveliest and purest of all, majestic and noble, the
I loved the emphasis in this book on simply learning to love Christ our Bridegroom. I was encouraged, challenged, and moved by the many beautiful portraits painted, the prayers and hymns and the heartfelt love of the Father expressed by Mother Basilea in the pages of this book.
Program for Men
http://www.kanaan.org/en/generation-hope/sommerprogramm-maenner/
Young men in discussion
Men working together in the garden
men eating together
ENQUIRY
Time
… alone with God
… together with like minded men
… to examine your life
… to make changes
For many years young men have benefited much from a stay on Kanaan. Life in our KanaanTeam offered them distance from the distractions of the world. In time alone with God, in fellowship with other men, in discussions about our daily Bible readings or the challenges facing young men today, they came to see their relationship to God in a new way. In confidential counseling and under prayer a break was made with the past and a fresh start could be made.
Young men who want to learn to live their lives according to God’s will and live responsibly in his presence are invited to come and spend time with us. We challenge them to examine their past and establish new goals. Mutter Basilea’s vision for Kanaan was, that Jesus command, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” (Matthew 22:37), would become the guiding light in our lives. We want to help you see how that can happen in your life.
In August and September we spend time teaching about the basics of christian life and our community. The rest of the year allows for more personal prayer time for those who would like to live and work with us for a while. This can be from a few weeks to a year. One critical requirement is the ability to understand and speak English well.
Chris Welch was in a young people's Summer Jugend event in 1974 with Bruder Sylvestro while Basilea was away praying against Chairman Mao who had assembled his troops along the edges of China ready to swoop onto Europe. She returned charged in the Holy Spirit and gave two of her most blistering hot talksSeeking the Face of God like Jacob at Peniel and
Go the Way of the Lamb it is a Way of Great Power
These messages contained the UNION WORD seed that was later confirmed through R.Edward Miller, and Norman P Grubb and became the foundation of this wider third level message for individuals and whole churches which is the whole basis of this blog. (Third level or third stage of growth in 1 John2)
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Basilea Schlink could never have known some of the effects of her life