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A Woman Clothed with the Sun - Oliver Bob Lagumen

Oliver Bob Reyes Lagumen Facebook   (You can read Oliver Bob's earlier experience here)
Time check is 6:24 A.M. but at dawn today the Lord woke me up with a message. And the message is Revelation 12. He reminded me how that in my ASCENSION EXPERIENCE, i was one with the power of the Sun, I went to pray where I was laying down and finally went out of the house.
Before I went out the house, I was just meditating in my bed and he revealed to me everything that I needed to know at the time. He verified that in this experience, how that I was indeed one with the power of the Sun and the glory of the universe.
Now, this is what the Father has unveiled: Logos-consciousness has revealed to me that the book of Revelation is the book of identification. Indeed it is the book of manifestation, because it is the book of identification. The Spirit of The Word revealed to me that anyone who DO NOT WISH TO IDENTIFY himself with "THE WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN", can not be identified with THE MANCHILD ON THE THRONE!
Anyone who will not be identified with the weakness of that woman, can not be identified with her strength. Anyone who refuses her Son, the Sun of righteousness, can not be identified with the Healing in her wings, and anyone who will not embrace her as God's wife, can not be identified with the Holy City (her children).
The mind of God revealed to me that she is the MOTHER LOGOS, the soul of creation, even the mother of creation! She is your soul restored into glory. She is you. When God made man in his image after his likeness, she consulted her within himself and man came into being, in fact none in creation came out into existence without being begotten from within her womb!
I have experienced all of her wonders in my ASCENSION EXPERIENCE and behold she is coming down out of heaven from God and from the throne of Godship to INHABIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD in the glory of the Father!
So now, I am seeing myself in THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE OF REVELATION 12!
Time-check is 6:50 A.M.
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Chris Welch Now you understand why the devil wanted to rip that little Thread of ours apart, for without this firm belief and understanding we bring forth the wind. Instead the devil like a serpent waits anxiously at the birthplace to chase after the Manchild. He waited anxiously trying to kill Moses the first Deliverer. And all those babies died.
He waited upon the birth of the True Deliverer Jesus and tried to slaughter Him too. And all those babies in Ramah made it a place of weeping. And in every country on earth he is doing his best to kill babies in abortion and reduce the population lest we ever be strong numerically and spiritually and finish the job that was lacking in the afflictions of Christ and dispatch him off the face of the earth.



Chris Welch continues
The writing that OLB has just posted is SO KEY. It is our distinctive. Maybe some of you haven't got to this point. Well we are not saying these things to be special, we are saying these things to define where the power of our believing needs to be.
You can be a Union believer, believing in the Exchanged Life at the Cross, but there is something more here. This is how St Paul expressed it, and it is the distinct message that Daniel Yordy, now Oliver Bob Reyes Lagumen , Annalize Mouton, myself, Rich Novek and many others now believe. "so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places".
Many believe the word of Paul here but they don't believe the specificity of either our exchanged life, that is Christ our only Life, nor that there could ever be a church who lived that out corporately. Revelation 12 says quite clearly it is so. She is like the SUN because such a community now has Christ Consciousness by virtue of the Cross in HER SOUL. We are nolonger like the moon "reflecting the light of the sun", we are the Son in the Earth. "As He is so are we in the Earth."
We nolonger live in separation,ln a Genesis 3 world believing we have a separate life. No such separate life ever existed....truly it was always satan's own empowering in such a masquerading daily form none of us noticed...but it affected in some way everything we felt, everything we thought, how we acted and how we spoke!!!! So not much then?LOL
But this Revelation 12 SUN is not me. Is not you. It's US. It's a New thing in the Earth. It's a woman covering/ giving birth to a MANCHILD. This dual REALITY is the CHURCH in the earth.
Now some LOCAL PRACTICS.....that need to be spoken.
IN 1976 in a cowshed in the Dales, outside Harrogate a people specified before God that they were this MARY....THIS SUN...THIS WOMAN...and solemnly before God and the particular called apostle of God, Ern Baxter....that we may, like Mary not understand it, but we said yes to the Holy Spirit....BE IT UNTO ME ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD. And on that pure foundation many hundreds of fellowships and churches spawned. LOCALLY....we have two such churches.
The Apostle Jorge Pradas spoke the same "specificity" over a charismatic prayer meeting and said...What are you? A Fellowship or the Church of the Living God.
A fellowship can mean anything. Take it or leave it. You can be adulterous. In, out, like some kind of bigamous marriage....OR you can be the CHURCH of the Living God. The sad thing about Emsworth Church is they NEVER had defined teaching on WHO THEY WERE as individuals. And eventually, a bit like the church of Galatians they became more and more nebulous in the specificity of their believing, and then renamed themselves NEW LIFE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, but not necessarily continuing in their inner believing as to what their identity was.
I then attended Havant Church for 12 years, but they too would not be pegged down according to who the Bible says they are.
Without BOTH specificities of believing Revelation CANNOT OCCUR. We give birth to the wind. Our sons and daughters leave. Like Israel we become just an empty shell, infrastructure and a name, but not having the POWER TO BRING FORTH.
Here is the magic that St Paul found.
A People who believe in their new identity in Christ.
A People who believe in their NEW IDENTITY...not as a human club...But the Revelation 12 Vison of the Church....the new thing...the woman covering a man or manchild....HAS the ability within Herself to bring Jesus forth. However i looks to the natural eyes. Jesus being born out the backside of a very busy inn, in a stable, in a cow trough didn't look any more promising than today's church of active believing saints....being born here and now on Facebook of all places and many other weird places on earth. (One such recent birthplace was a mafia style controller of pimps and prostitutes in Reykjavik Iceland suddenly waking for nights afraid for his own soul and then a church formed round him).....
The other things aren't really churches....they may even be baptised in the Spirit...but they are not believing what the Bible says about them, nor believing what the Bible is saying about how a true church functions....so they reap the wind. They may sell Cds, Conferences, may have healings like Aladdin rubbing their lamps, but they don't have SUN consciousness, they still have moon separation consciousness, and anyone living with them can see it. So they reap the wind. Their children leave them "for other nations".

My HIS STORY

In 1968 Eric Chambers pastor of Old Town Baptist Church Amersham heard that Don Basham had a spare evening in the UK, after arriving from the USA. It was too short notice to arrange for a proper church meeting so they invited him to speak to as many as could be mustered at the home of Ron and Pam Knight here in Grimsdells Lane,Amersham.

He spoke on the baptism in the Holy Spirit, then encouraged whoever wanted to stay to be prayed for to receive the baptism. That was the real beginning of the renewal in the Baptist Church.

Young people from several local churches began to be born again and receive the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Many of the boys went to Dr Challoner's Grammar School here in Amersham.After the event below on April 6th, 1972, for a few weeks we experienced a little bit of an "open heaven" at the school, in that it became easy to share and talk about the gospel. At its zenith I counted 80 boys one lunchtime, instead of playing football, they were seated on the grass, and were all studying the Bible.

We're talking a largely atheist school here...especially in those days...this was extraordinary.

I attended St John's Methodist Church in Amersham until a point in my 13th year when, after achieving an incredible school report almost entirely of A's, I was surprised how empty I felt and started searching deeply for more meaning in life. I became very very depressed and left church.

My schoolfriend Rod Nixon was more than persistant with me much to my annoyance. He encouraged me to attend a couple of monthly youth meetings in the newly established outreach building which was called the Christian centre on the site of today's PW White building,very near where   Griff Rhys Jones and Mel Smith's Talkback is currently positioned opposite St John's.

The Christian Centre showed two Billy Graham films:Two A Penny,with Cliff Richard, and Jim Vaus Wire-tapper.

  

It was here that I became truly born again and then was told about St Leonard's Anglican Church Youth group

 which met here in leafy Chesham Bois

 They were studying the book of Romans. I'd never heard anything like it

 up until that point in February and March 1972. It was the period of the power cuts caused by striking utility workers. The sight of young people turning out in a largely atheist and often drugged up Britain,to prayer and study meetings often powered by candlelight had a profound effect on me.

,During this period, some people announced that 2 completely different people had had a vision of a Holy Spirit teach in day and so it was set for April 6th 1972.

 It took place here in Great Kingshill Bucks, and to this day nobody knows quite how the message carried so that the house was chock full of young people receiving teaching in the morning on evangelism and on the Holy Spirit in the afternoon. Those who wanted to were again asked to stay and be prayed for.I   describe on some of our blogs how I was baptised in the Spirit that day along with 12-15 others.

 Today the flame is being carried by people like the owner of the chain of The Entertainer. This was the first ever shop which he opened in Amersham. In recent years he has set up a trust and bought a mill in Latimer nearby, to help disadvantaged youngsters. Last year in the grounds he had an evangelistic campaign and many were born again or renewed their faith. He is creating an impact because he is such a leading businessman in Britain, often speaking on behalf of business  on radio and on TV.

The earth is flat I tell you

So we have got universalists that claim we can just march into God's Presence.We can.
And they claim that God is not angry with us. He's not.
The key is Jesus Christ.
So what's the problem?
The problem is Genesis 3. Until you "see" what happened in Genesis 3, you can "universal"

all you like. You can claim God's Love. Which, it is true, is unconditional for all of us. But sooner or later you are going to have to lose the double vision you have.....the one that you and I inherited from our parents and settled into our race about the time that" our eyes were supposed to be opened.". A bit like a permanent bad LSD trip our eyes were opened all right....but we have been seeing bogus vision ever since.
You can shout. You can scream at what some of us are saying here on Facebook, but nothing you can do or say will ever change the lessons you are going to have to learn. This is it. It's unpopular. Somebody wrote today that the stuff I write is hardly read in comparison to their own writings. Well I could freak out I suppose. But no amount of Catholic writings, or Catholic insistence via Kings and any number of armies made anything Galileo discovered any less true. He possibly only wrote it down on one fragment of paper. But from the moment he discovered it, Catholics could read book upon book, vellum upon vellum, declaring their writings far more important and in keeping with tradition.....
BUT THE FACT REMAINS the earth is NOT FLAT.
Hal Williamson and Ken Dahl can cut me off, they can claim popularity, they can go on talking for every last breath of their life....but that which Madame Guyon, Jacob Boehme, Norman Grubb, to a certain extent Watchman Nee, Mother Basilea Schlink, Mikkel Thomsen, any numbers of others here, myself....the Bible....that which we patiently reiterate is 100% accurate concerning vesselhood, seeing with a single eye, and all the types of processes in the Bible that we have to pass through to catch this stuff. That just IS THE WAY THINGS ARE. God's wisdom is once again far higher than ours...and reproduces His very Self inside us en route....thus killing about 6 billion birdies with one stone. When we understand what God is laying in us, we begin to understand what we are going through is pretty trifling by comparison.

Losing Patience with Facebook Klever Klogs

The inane "God questions" posed by most on facebook come out of a modern culture raised in ignorance.
- He is accused for how His church is when Jesus Christ specifically told us HOW it would be -messed up.

 Unlike any other controlled faith in the hands of man God honours our freewill, and has a "hands off" approach waiting for a generation that will really go for it which David saw beforehand in Psalm 110.
- God stated the Master KEY as early as the Old Covenant so don't come whining that you are waiting for HIM TO MOVE. The Master Key still stands in the New Covenant.   Love God with all your heart, soul , strength,mind....anything in fact that is still loose and flapping.....and love each other as your self
- John 7.17-19 specifically states how we get hold of Revelation and it has nothing to do with the prissy, dilettante, suck it and see, detached method of learning in the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil that all other systems of education rely on. Have manual.....Go DO.
No...like the Buddhist saying...when the servant is ready the teacher will come or
"If a man's will is to do the will of My Father  he shall know the teaching whether it be of God."   People on Facebook ask daft questions because only their minds are in gear trained in all the daft religious precepts of the world and religious organisations, and then they expect to build a God House on top of all that ramshackle nonsense.
- Christ is the BUILDING. Christ is the Knowledge. Christ Himself is the teaching and the one doing the teaching by His Spirit.
To See so many on Facebook broadsweep everything aside as if they know it all, when their writings lay them bare as knowing very little.
They know nothing other than American cult teachings. Now American half built Towers or Half funded armies...to use Jesus own examples may be considerably further on than English Quarterbuilt Towers and Quarter funded army conscripts...but neither are anywhere near the teaching that is in the New Testament.
- Yer typical American and English interjection against the Holy Name of God is very similar to if humans stood at the side of babies or teenagers and just laughed scornfully, just because they weren't adults. In the natural we don't do this so how come we think it's OK to do a Sanballat on God as He is building His walls simultaneously in all the earth?
Bravo....Brits picked up on the immaturity of TV evangelists somewhere back in the last century. So the Facebook people have just caught up in America?????!!!! Great.
Yes we know Africans like their apostle badges, and their prophet badges. We know Kenneth Copeland believes or "Faiths in" his Lear jets, and Morris Cerullo his 12 million dollar house...or Benny Hinn. We know all these things. But has it not occurred to you that REAL FAITH has to start somewhere? God begins where we are at. Africans do their tribal elder culture and their Big Village Chief. Americans do their Blues Brothers "We are on a Mission from God...now give me money for myLear jet."   But all this is NO DIFFERENT AT ALL from the Book you modernists have just tossed in the bin. I think it's called the Bible.  The WAY of GOD . The Manner in which a man clothes himself with God coming from a fallen world that knows nothing of the protocols of heaven is in the exact three generation sequence we see rolled out in Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Then we see exactly the same sequence rolled out again starting with 12 rather clueless KLUTZES who get similarly powered up, and follow Jesus around...then demand to send fire down on villages that don't want to hear their sermons. But yes....after just 3 and half years we see radically transformed people just about ready for the roll out of the real thing. A breathtaking community that.....stuck for any better ideas....Karl Marx immortalised forever in his atheist cobbled up replica system called Communism.

Heaven is real. The protocols of heaven are real. The fact that you Facebook folk haven't a clue yet is a problem with you, not with God.It's also a problem that you happened to be born in a strange masonic/pilgrim twilight world where it's normal for UK Elites to clone, raise, and instal all your rulers and ruling dynasties and publish Bible Translations by bogus doctors so you will fund Luciferian Zionist goals under the guise of helping God along. (The Scofield Bible published  freakishly by Oxford University Press in 1917 after funding its writing by a random railroad man who then called himself a doctor of letters)

Auschwitz and the reality of an actual evil.

I have very little time for people who believe neither in God nor the devil when, played out at Auschwitz, is everything you need to know. Same with the communist Gulags. Just relegating all this causally to bad thinking is as stupid as assigning the same to all the circumstances surrounding the death of Jesus Christ. The truth is the Jews didn't stand a chance at not being involved in Jesus death, any more than the Germans stood any more chance with Hitler. All these events are spiritual and unless people live in the Spirit people have to comply with spiritual evil. They get sucked into it just as people are now with the One World order. All these events occur not so politicians can meet and wring hands after decades....they occur precisely NOW so that you can never stand before God and say you were never part of it. The minute we choose not to live in the Spirit, everyman is a part of it. That's why it's called "the world, the flesh and the devil". All the mealy mouthed grace operatives and seculars who never ever pursue anything to any depth will learn the hard way. Germans are still getting over it.

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The Death of Secularism

Jesus Christ described the Kingdom and how it would be in a parable. A Farmer would sow good seed in his field. Then an Enemy comes by night and sows evil seed so that it grows alongside the good seed and seeks to strangle it.
What night?
The coming of Catholicism as a system is commonly held by most historians as spawning the Dark Middle ages, Very little advanced over hundreds and hundreds of years. Catholicism has very little to do with the conscious personal recognition of a believer with the words and teachings of the Living Christ in the epistles and the gospels. Jesus simple words are "Repent(Change direction) Be baptised in water, and receive/be filled with the Holy Spirit." By which time you relate with heavenly realities and are not part any more of earthly systems save for doing your best to honour earthly infrastructures for the sake of order. "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's etc."
By invading God's Kingdom the enemy has
prevented people " being born again".....infants are ritually baptised before they have developed conscious free will
and no one in the Catholic church receives nor get baptised in the Spirit but by miraculous encounter with God.

We have a world community of Christians that adopted human patterns of rule, all unable to bear the fruit of Jesus Christ, because they had never received Him supernaturally. It became a laughing stock in the world, as the Enemy had designed and as Jesus Christ forewarned.....take care when you build a tower or conscript an army for battle to see you have enough money to finish the project. A half built tower and a half waged campaign of war will be laughed at in the whole world. Satan, as designed, used the catastrophic failures to foment 18th century revolutions beginning in France to declare Christianity a spent force, upon which foundation Richard Dawkins writes his "God Delusion".
Catholicism may be a spent force but Christianity has never been tried.
The real thing is run in the heart, by people turning to find the reality of God and His power and mercy and living from that in a totally new reality that cannot make sense to a secular world that makes atoms its god.Give and it shall be given you has no space in secular thought. It's non Newtonian physics.Which is why we have to outgrow it.


Annalize Mouton writes

Chris Welch Jim Puntney Marsha Newton-Zornes Anna Kolbe Obery Doug Alexander Barbara Allen and all my other equally "fascinated by quantum physics" friends, watch this and connect the dots: "Adam and Eve's eyes were opened", "already seated with Christ in heavenly places" and so much more!!!!!!!! And what if the sons of God can explore these "higher dimensions" by being able to live in more than "one dimension at the same time" in Christ? Are the natural minds sizzling, yet? Hahaaha! What existed before time and space, before everything that was created, before the "big bang"? In the beginning YHWH… Spirit… And in the end…With all wisdom and understanding, he'd made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.
In him we were also chosen,e having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory. …And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way. …When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all. HalleluYah!!!!!!!

The Nature of the Lamb - Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj

The Largest Photo Ever Taken To This point

When secular TV does science bless em, they do spooky music and  godless great expanses of nothingness. I prefer the music on this Youtube though.

Truth is, when the astronauts first saw  beyond our planet they were filled with awe and also incredibly aware how unspoilt things were.

There is nowhere we can go where God is not.  He fills the all in all.

Lot had just separated off from Abraham and God comes to him in Genesis 13 and first of all says  "I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth, so that if anyone can number the dust of the earth, then your descendants can also be numbered. "

then a couple of chapters later after rescuing Lot and his relatives , Abraham assumes the servant in his house must be the promised heir...

God takes him outside ....."And He took him outside and said, “Now look toward the heavens, and count the stars, if you are able to count them.” And He said to him, “So shall yourdescendants be.”  Then he believed in the Lord; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.



Job 9:7 Who commands the sun not to shine, And sets a seal upon the stars;


Job 22:12 “Is not God in the height of heaven? Look also at the distant stars, how high they are!



Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Psalm 8:3 When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, The moon and the stars, which You have ordained;


Psalm 136:9 The moon and stars to rule by night, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.

Psalm 147:4 He counts the number of the stars; He gives names to all of them.




Psalm 148:3 Praise Him, sun and moon; Praise Him, all stars of light!




Daniel 12:3 Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

The Government of God

You want to be aware of demons, in the same way that you want to be aware of road safety. If you are too aware of road accidents you would never go anywhere though.
In Kingdom terms, centering on God's Plans makes any thing the devil is planning virtually irrelevant. A day in the Courts of heaven is like a 1000 elsewhere. It's like being in on a central slum clearance committee. Anything the devil had planned before has to be totally reorganised afterwards, and as the church grows, the devil won't be doing any reorganising.

Can you see why the schemes and ruses upon these last generations have been so fierce? The Church IS the means that the devil will be driven off this earth. Here's the scripture....
The Father said to the Son....Sit at my Right Hand UNTIL your enemies are made your footstool. Where is the Government? The Government is upon His shoulders? Where are His shoulders? Right under the poles of the Ark because they are the shoulders of the priests. Who are the priests? A special caste? Well they are a special caste, because Jesus died for everyone in order to make a special caste of them. He took everyone into death with Him to raise everyone up in His FORM. And it is THIS type of priesthood that is the Government of God in the earth. Why does it have to be in the Earth? Why can't the Head do it at the right hand of God the Father? Is He lazy? NO....the earth was GIVEN to the sons of men while they are still alive, to rule and reign. DON'T GET THIS WRONG. Even in your ignorance you are still ruling. But you are choosing for Satan. You are choosing for the Liar. The Thief. The Murderer from the Beginning.
When we choose instead the REIGN of GOD we choose not only God's purposes in the way we have already understood....WE ALSO CHOOSE the GOVERNMENTAL MEANS that everything is to be restored by. THE GOVERNMENTAL SHOULDER PRIESTLY REIGN of JESUS CHRIST
as LIVING MEN UPON EARTH
IN REAL TIME.

We Didn't KNOW our generation (60s/70s Move of God) would turn out instead to be a SAUL people. IN our minds we were fleeing our SAULS who we regarded as denominational churches. But if you think about it...Saul was ANOINTED in an instant. Then took up rule. So did our generation.The previous types of churches made no claim to the Holy Spirit's anointing.
We were TOLD about apostles prophets pastors teachers and evangelists and thinking entirely in the pyramid forms of leadership we were raised in....
The apostles at the top, the prophets supposedly next, then pastors teachers and evangelists were lower in the pecking order. These are God's GIFTS. Gifts of rulership...hence government of God. Why don't we elect George W Bush a born again Christian to blast everyone in our way while we are at it????

All of this was SAUL. SAUL. SAUL. Read Eyes of Fire by Daniel Yordy.

No the Government of God is not a human government. It's a priestly government which takes its seat in the heavenlies, from the least of people to the greatest.Not by Might Nor by Power but by my Spirit says the Lord.

Any person active in New Covenant believing, shouldering the Ark of the Presence of the Lord by engaging in the Spirit is the "Government" spoken in Isaiah about the Son. The Government shall be on His shoulders.

The "catching up" that the scriptures talk of is the catching up of people in the here and now into Christ as a reality. Neither Lo here, nor Lo there, surely the Kingdom the Reign the Government of God is NIGH YOU EVEN IN YOUR MOUTH.

All the earthly models shall run their course, but the promises, the activation, the reality , the walking out by the FEET of the BODY, the last to be born, is all by a people caught up in the Spirit.

The Government of God looks like Jesus.
As He is so are we in the Earth.
The Government of God is in the HEART as Galatians 2:20 consciousness.
Blessed are the men whose strength is in thee, in whose heart are the Highways to Zion. Psalm 84.
It's NOT a human order though it is human.
The Catholic church is a human order.
The charismatic order is a human order and a spiritual order but without established consciousness, knowing that I have died, and now my life is hid with Christ in God.

The Government of God is supernatural. It relies on the person of Christ and the Holy Spirit for its very core identity AND  its abilities to carry things through.

Ingathering - John Castleman

How Central the Job story is with Annalize Mouton

But first, Neville Johnson's message






Annalize shares
How faithful is our Father!!!!!!! I listened to this only this morning… and hear, hear, hear what he says about Job!!!!!!! Wooohoooooooo!!!! Thank you Father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Confirmation upon confirmation!!!!!!!!! Only this morning Father said: Job is for today, it shows us the process, the stand in faith in the FINISHED WORK – CHRIST, learn to defend ourselves against the accuser, and what happens when we see Him!!!!! Oh, our Father, you truly are our Father!!!!! In the next comment I shall post what I had written earlier this morning BEFORE I listened to Neville!
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Annalize Mouton Job: the sons of God appeared and satan was there also. Accusations followed from satan and the other “sons of God” still trapped in the false mindset (carnal mind); [see the same pattern in Zechariah 3 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. 2The LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, the LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?] What ensues is a process whereby our Father/Origen comes to light. (Parental testing is the use of genetic fingerprinting to determine whether two individuals have a biological parent–child relationship. A paternity test establishes genetic proof whether a man is the biological father of an individual). Light brings the embedded imprint to the forefront.

Oh, and when we see how our earthly lives have fallen short of the reality of the Truth of our being, that we are exactly as He is, how we have spoken and entertained thoughts and behaviours completely not in accordance with the Truth of who we ourselves and our Father is, we fall on our faces, like one who is dead. Job – ”I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear; But now my eye sees You; Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes." John – Revelation 1:17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, 18and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.…
Isaiah – a man of unclean lips!

Then we expect punishment and eternal damnation, but oh, the goodness of our Father. It is I, your Father who loves you with a neverending perfect love. He Himself has taken all of that away in a Redemption provided even before we came to this earth. When we see God, we see ourselves as He intended us/as we really are now – the picture/image of us that He had kept alive in Himself. He brings out the family portrait: Father and Sons – that makes the “mortal man” fall on their faces, as dead – and the blood/Spirit/life/DNA of our Father is revealed. And we ourselves are revealed, too. As His sons, made in His image and likeness. Know we know God/Spirit our Father aright, we know ourselves aright, and we know all our fellowmen aright. Our eyes have seen God/Christ.Spirit/the Kingdom of God/His Word/DNA within us. Now we walk as sons of God in the earth and we are about our Father’s business – getting His sons, our brothers and sisters back into His house. By our love, our Father’s love now issuing out of us, we break the news to them of their true identity, open the prison doors and set them free from bondage and slavery, the yokes of oppression, and we start the process of gently leading them back home to our Father and theirs, and we feed them, heal them, carry them. This does not happen overnight: we would first have to win their trust, we ourselves have to live as sons of our Father and put His life on display through the same sets of circumstances and situations that befalls every man, and when they taste Him – love, joy, peace, kindness, humility, life, abundance. We establish His kingdom on earth with His and our resources that have been kept in heaven for us, not where rust and moth destroys.

That is why Jesus said: in the earth you will have trouble, take up your cross and follow me, deny, lose your life (this earthly soul life of the lust of the flesh, the pride of life, the lust of the eyes – the infatuation with this touch, see, hear, feel, taste, 5-sense world. Endure the tribulations of the flesh-body so that the spiritual can be released. Lose that old false mortal man mindset ruled by the law of sin and death, and put on the mind of Christ/God/Spirit. Clothe ourselves fully with Christ/God's Spirit/Garment, [that's to hide in the cleft of the Rock, to go through the eye of the needle (to get in there we have to get rid of everything we have been carrying – every earthly concern, shame, guilt, pride, good things, bad things, all accummulated things), and be covered by the bloodstained pierced Hand of God. Oh, there is so much more to be said, but I pray that Father will open our spiritual eyes and that we will all SEE HIM in this life!

Something that I shall share with you sometime soon, but which I urge you to search out for yourself, is the nature of the awesome, atomic, fiery, shekinah glory, kabo(w)d of our Father, and why "mortal man" cannot “see” Him or come into His presence on our own without the proper protective covering (the Blood/Life of the Lamb, Jesus Christ). It has forever been thus: His glory is such that if we would enter it without the right clothing, the same thing would happen to us as should we walk with our exposed skin into an atomic bomb, or a room filled with radio-activity. Search out how the Blood was the covering to protect the children of Israel and all those who so wished, against “the plague” and see what happened to those who disobeyed God’s instructions of how to prepare themselves before they come into His presence. Jesus Christ is our protective covering – now and forever, prepared from before the foundations of the earth. Enter fully into Him. (unedited version)

Showing its mettle/metal - Annalize Mouton

The Word of Father that we speak, Christ, is our Faith. And like Job, that Faith is tested/proved to "show it's metal" – that it is indeed PURE GOLD, God Himself. Though the circumstances in our lives may shout, "He is dead, they killed my Lord!", His Word, God, is RESURRECTION AND GLORIFIED LIFE. So this is not a test that we can fail (it is His Word, His faith and it is and was always the WINNER) – gold is gold, in what little amount there may be. As we keep standing in the fire and keep resting in Him and His victorious love, goodness and life, that gold will come forth purified and accomplishes that unto which it was sent. It is always Christ Himself, the Victor, coming forth from within us, pouring Himself out in our own earth first and then also simultaneously to the "earths" around us. True prayer is coming into fellowship with our Father and His Word (Jesus Christ) – hearing what they say and then saying the same as what they are saying. That is the only Word the angels and all of heaven listens to, hear and obey. So all of heaven is waiting for that sound. And they respond. The thing that had been lacking, I think, is that we had been speaking much like little children in the past – parroting our Father and Brother, but without much conviction. As children we had said a lot of stuff with mixture in it and with a somewhat wavering mind (double-forked) – one eye on Him and the other on the waves. What He is bringing us into, is the Absolute Authority of His Word. His Word creates, is the Creator. Now He is taking away all fear as we come into greater KNOWLEDGE of Him, and then we speak the Word of His Power with great boldness, authority and conviction from a place of KNOWING, of VICTORY, FINISHED – where we are ONE with Him and His Son. The Word of God purified seven times!

The Whole Church

I think as well as the third level message and also sharing the truth about the world, my other current burden and it may be an en route marker to the other two....is the wholeness of the Body of Christ.
It's a bit of a Catch 22.
The Body cannot be whole until we as individuals know our new identities. But we cannot readily grow into our new identities because paradigms that fracture and disunite actually strengthen the belief that God's Word DOES NOT MEAN WHAT IT SAYS. The devil knew what he was doing when he sowed all that. It has kept us in a loop for thousands of years.
I was talking about this with DeeDee Winter.
The Body like our own bodies has homeostasis....regulatory systems within it which keep all our chemical levels correct, and keep the whole body healthy.
One of he most powerful strategies of Satan is divide and rule, and the most obvious historic example is the Class system.
An aristocrat cannot ordinarily know what it feels like to be a person waking up in the morning desperately worried about losing shelter or having enough food because they don't know if they are going to earn enough. This has been somewhat smoothed over compared with other countries by the social security system. But nevertheless our churches remain pretty middle class even after the experience of baptism in the Spirit. Actually pentecostals largely came from the lower classes, and until Michael Harper there were two hurdles...one the subject itself and secondly it was deemed "beneath" most English to mix with "those sort of classes".
Thirdlevel Christianity is the type that Jesus preached. His followers were a taxcollector,a doctor, some fishermen and doubtless other trades. He had rich wives of wealthy prominant citizens donating to them, as well as many very poor widows.
The true Presence of the Lord embraces absolutely everyone...but that doesn't mean it's easy. When you tune a piano don't think that you tune every string so that there is absolutely no out of tuneness.
While all three strings to one note must be beatless, without any honkytonk vibrations, if you tuned all 12 notes perfectly you'd never be able to play in every key.
If you let Lukes ramble on about detail, they narrow and narrow their focus as they explain things, you'd be all night hearing how they poured their milk on their cornflakes. So the Spirit shuts them up and moves on. If you let prophets ramble, they seem to get more and more airy fairy....and it isn't Holy Spirit...who is accurate , clear and defined...even about spiritual things.If you let administrators out without a lead, they will box the work of the Holy Spirit in with so many constraints Jesus will personally have to knock on the door of all the churches just to be allowed into His own meetings.
WHAT IDIOT ever came up with that one about having to tell a leader your prophecy first before being allowed to issue it? What kind of a nerd came up with that piece of non Biblical bottom excrescence?
If you let pastors control things as they now do totally illegally, they smoothe down the lapels of everyone present and make everything sweet so their offerings are big, putting duct tape over the mouths of prophets.
If you let healers take over, they'll be praying for every loose fingernail and trying to demolish the right of each person to their own faith to live in Divine Health themselves so nobody ever gets sick in the first place. Healers like sickness, it gives them a ministry. And so it goes on. Church as it is run right now actually prevents anybody at all ever becoming thirdlevel and mature.

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Facebook Status Today....Walk In the Light
We want intimacy. Gerald Coates used to call the birth of a church the honeymoon period. We have had one as Christians on Facebook.
What is the honeymoon period.
The free exchange of tons and tons of jewellery that each person now has by virtue of things learned......tough times.....good times......direct blessings.....cultural wealth.....skills.....maybe like Annalize Mouton generational wealth of Christians praying.....Or others...hundreds of years of Amish or Moravian or Mennonite believing.
So where's the problem?Gerald Coates in the previous move called it being human. We call it what it actually says in the Bible. Not living with an inward single eye. False seeing. Ultimately any remaining Satan masquerading as me. See, the wounding would never be as bad if the "being human" myth had any reality to it. But it's very much spirit to spirit. It is that which is of God being addressed by devils. And in the worst cases it can wound for a lifetime if we don't keep fresh with Jesus. The book of James discusses these killing fields.
If we have had some of God's wisdom on issues then like exsmokers we see them coming and we also attack....but not the people....just the issues....The spirits of Darkness.....if we all really want the Light then we walk in the Light and let Darkness be shown up. John says....if we wAlk in the Light we have fellowship one with another.....why....because that is what the Spirit does.....like in Genesis 1.....when He sees darkness He hovers over it incubating Life.
Yes so.....there is the honeymoon free exchange of great wealth.....followed by the rattling of dead bones.....and no church move in history.....Perhaps other e r than the 100 years Moravian prayer meeting.....has ever seen a whole people get through the rattling of dead bones. Take care brethren lest a root of bitterness spring up and you perish in the wilderness like the Israelites.

The Birth of the new Church

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Chris Welch Although it seems weird talking like this...anybody remember 1975 and 6? The Kansas City Shepherd's Conference, the Lakes and the Dales Bible Weeks...and the angels? And the reports of angels in the Yorkshire Press? I tell you I don't mind failing at all!!!! LOL

I was recalling 1973 and 4. Marcus Roberts had had a significant encounter with USA Christians from Gene Edwards' Galeta fellowship.  I think he met some in Falmer University Brighton, then he exhuberantly shared some of Watchman Nee's material with us.  I have shared the effect of Graham Pulkingham on Amersham Baptist Church in what was quite a wry encounter of two species.
Graham Pulkingham grabbed our attention because the Fisherfolk came almost direct from Houston to do a week at our school, Dr Challoner's Grammar School Amersham.
But also Graham's talk to the church really got our notice. It was the anointing with which he stated the Church is the Body of Christ.  It had the same cutting edge that Jesus did when He stated to Nazareth Synagogue: " Today is this scripture fulfilled in your midst."

 I have shared of the 1970s origins of the church Marcus and I eventually ended up in. Long before we arrived Jorge Pradas had challenged the charismatic prayer fellowship that met once a month in Emsworth: "Are you a fellowship or are you the Church?"

It's specificity of believing.

So yesterday I was recalling the same kind of lull that we are in now, but 40 years ago. Then it seemed things changed like a whirlwind two years later. The Dales Bible Week pinned some of us
to the wall. It was in a cow's shed in Harrogate Showground The irony wasn't lost on us as Ern Baxter led several thousand of us in the prayer of Mary....Lord I don't understand but be it unto me according to your Word.

Now we can articulate what we were doing.
It was specificity.
It was believing in our heart and confssing with our mouth that Jesus Christ, the same awesome Jesus Christ was being born in us. We were believing ON HIS LIFE.

In genesis 3 Adam believed OFF his life in a titanic act that still affects us.
He began believing in the lie of the independent self.

By being specific and nailing our colours...we are in fact reversing history,
History is being reversed on the fulcrum of the New Creation in Christ.

Therefore if any man is in Christ he is become a new creation, the old has passed away and the new has come. Our active believing on everything Christ did IS THE VICTORY THAT OVERCOMES THE WORLD.
If we become passive, if we like Peter on the waves, start to consider for a moment what on earth am I doing?  we will sink. This is not the victory.

THIS IS THE VICTORY even our faith. But we can pray, Lord help my unbelief.

Adam and Eve's little movement of reaching for fruit was VAST.
The Jesus Move taking their first corporate steps to nail their specificity to the mast was VAST.


And this is our believing.
STILL.
And now more defined through Norman Grubb after the book Yes I am.

I am Jesus Christ in his Chris Welch vinebranch form going on.
I don't build stone churches.
I don't seek to continue any tradition of man
I don't owe any man that task.
I am a free man in Christ.
But it IS the faith of Jesus Christ operating in me.

And now, as we have received the eyesalve of Revelation
we see God as the source of the ONLY LIFE in the Universe.
We can perceive a corporate derived life....since the devil
himself lives by God's life as well, but has twisted it in on itself
as a self for self life....so yes we see a derived life....

but now we keep our single eye open for what God is doing
with me, with everyone.
Willing and working for His good pleasure.

This is the New church.
Life itself.

We are not building oldstyle churches, oldstyle meetings.
We are telling you how you can live God's Life, the only real life
today in you. Sure we will gather as we eventually did in great numbers
40 years ago.....and when we gather it will be more specific than at any time since Adam. For now we are at last grasping what gathering in His Name means.

(Original Facebook post)

It took three whole generations for God to get His package of stuff into Abraham Isaac and Jacob and then this was rolled out into a "Family" Nation. But this in itself was still quite an outer form of what He was going for.
As I wrote this morning, on a huge scale, the Jews were used to bring in the Outer Court ministry. That God existed. That God wanted to bless and heal. That God was Father and wanted a relationship with a people. But it was Jesus whose job it was to introduce the next big stage. As we can see in history the last 2000 years has been a very mixed affair. Church has been incredibly like the Jews knowledge of God, with people more caught up with Law than relationship.

God is continually replanting and pruning His work. One way to think of Church history is as a "transition" between Law and Spirit. it began free , but even in Acts we can see seeds of religion wanting to take the church captive. The church itself has gone into the ground and died.....the first fruits of resurrection have happened with Luther's rediscovery of salvation by faith....and gradually more and more has been restored. Having done Holy Place Christianity for 100 years God is taking the whole of His church into the most radical transition yet. We enter individually into a crisis that is like Romans 7 crashing in on us. Everything that we knew, thought, felt we owned is going up in smoke in an experience of the altar of incense.
If you like the forerunners were the 12 apostles who had to learn they couldn't do Christianity. It's a horrible time for our flesh, but we start to get our new identity.
Now if we thought charismatic churches were an improvement on evangelical churches....well that's nothing to the difference between what's coming now.
I went through this type of transition 40 years ago in Amersham. We knew we had more light, but everywhere was just denominational churches. So we withdrew for a few years refusing to play the Christian game and sure enough the Spirit sent in amazing men , mainly from America, who raised up the last generation of churches.
These are now wearing thin, and the Spirit is currently brooding to bring forth something completely new. Probably like Jesus and the disciples, it won't even look like church...it'll be more like living together.

More Bloody Revolutions?

I want to share something on a bigger scale using a bit of history, One of the big things about Union thinking and single eye thinking that Jesus talked about is related to the words of David...even though I make my 4 poster in Sheol there are you
and the prophets somewhere...(listen if St Paul didn't have Google then I can say that too)
You are surrounded by Darkness....or in the Midst of Darkness
Darkness is as LIGHT
we are over SHADOWED by the Most High
in the SHADOW of His wings

Matthew 5 makes it absolutely clear that the BLESSING of the Lord is to be found right in very precise spot where we hate according to the natural man....errrr...but only when He shows up.  We require Him to show up to survive.

A lot of the mad way Christians live....and this is also true of all humans too...is God showing up unexpectedly and undergirding us in completely alien situations.
We are like burning bushes that never burn up.
We are like roots out of parched ground
"Where did you lot come from?"  Ask any of us on the net here regularly making absurd spiritual type statements. They would be absurd but they are coming out of God really showing up in incredible ways.

But God showed up for Ishmael and his mum too!!!!   That's a great bit of prefiguring there by the way...read it for yourselves.
(In the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack....it may well transpire the attackers were "turned" and mindcontrolled" and the whole thing wasn't really Muslim at base, but like so many others, secret service based with Muslim as cover. If that is so my heart goes out to Muslims who now find themselves in the midst of French racial hatred.)

The context of this post of seeing the WHOLE is to do with prayer.
For centuries Christians have been praying THY KINGDOM COME and while Christians have been "meaning that" outwardly, because they may have not been very mature....
God HAS BEEN FAITHFULLY answering...but in the same manner as He answered the prayer for the Messiah

Like a ROOT out of parched ground.

If you can see in the Spirit you can see that particularly in the last 500 years we have started a completely new traversal of the heavenly Tabernacle. Any unbelievers unfamiliar with this stuff check it out for yourselves.....
The Tabernacle, (and Moses one was just a Cornflakes packet model of the real Heavenly One)see Hebrews)...had three sections.
Luther began things again when he stated simply
Salvation is by faith in the death and resurrection of Christ. Not by paying your way in Indulgences to the Pope.
Spiritually this is the BRAZEN altar ...if you stray any further out of the door you are nolonger in God's Tabernacle...you cease to be a part of the Heavenly Covenant with man....this is what Luther was saying.

Now follow all the "furniture" of the Tabernacle inwards and I guarantee you can understand that each MOVE of GOD from the Anabaptists (Laver and baptisms) onwards corresponds with all the rest of the furniture until we "come home" to the Holy of Holies, God incarnating Himself in man.

BUT SAINTS AND SOON SAINTS.....what did it "look like"?
100 Years War
Revolutions
Birth of America
Freemasonry
Millions dead
World Wars
Police States
Cold War
Threat of Nuclear War......wars and rumours of wars

Saints praying "Thy Kingdom Come"  won't be thinking God has ever answered.
But in the reverse sort of Kingdom weave whereby the underneath part of the tapestry is what we see, on top the true Spirit weave is actually what is birthed in corporate man in terms of light,  understanding,and manner of living.....
Revelation as in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John makes it perfectly clear that Christ is reigning and ruling and opening seals that ARE BUILDING A HOUSE in the EARTH...it just doesn't always look like it...

Any more than the birth of the child looks any more like the child that 2 hours later, cleaned up and in blankets is presented to any visitors to see the mum and child.

YOU AND I, like DAD's allowed into childbirth....are just privileged to see the messy birth process of the KINGDOM actually arriving LIVE as it happens.
Amidst screams.
Traumas
Negatives
Disturbances
and so on

But history shows us some amazing things.
This is the well known one I was going to pinpoint.
European Revolutions and Britain

In the Spirit it was the TIME in the heavenlies for the precursor to the birth of the new PRIESTHOOD in all the nations of the world.
In Moses time this looked like the Levites all washing ceremonially and being anointed to enter the covered areas of the Tabernacle. Why covered? Because beyond this point ONLY priests could enter, and only the Spirit was going to be the Light source  . Around the 1750s onwards we are at the very earliest preparations for the Baptism in the Spirit to be outpoured again as experience across the earth in the early 20th Century Pentecostal explosion. But in the late 1700s this was still not yet.

But it WAS the birth of the Brethren understanding that we were ALL ministers and priests. So in the Spirit this was the rolling out of the new understanding of who are now the LEVITES?
Without that understanding God is not going to be able to baptise everyone in the Spirit come the twentieth century.

So how did it "look " in the natural?
Well in Europe and America it "looked" like a Freemasonry bloodbath as the peoples severed themselves from the "old priesthood " notion of the catholic heirarchies (especially France) but also from the old order patrimonies of KINGS ruling nations.    THIS WAS GOD's TIME and you either did it in a bloody way or as in England...you did it more in God.

After praying literally for a 100 years non stop, the Moravians went into all the world preaching the gospel....but the100 year  DAM of SPIRITUAL POWER affected nobody more than the UK and America. John Wesley was "Kingdom blasted" by contact with these Moravians and nothing more so than by the incident of the ship in a storm. He knew that they knew that they knew that they knew...
and in that moment he knew that he didn't........

METHODISM was only a RHEMA stage in God. RHEMA is a direct spoken Word of God similar to the manna they received in the Wilderness which went "off " in about 3 days. Methodism may be slightly renewed by now but in the 1960s they had so "gone  off" it is a wonder I could ever become a Christian at all, and as it was I never became a Christian in the Methodist church.

But in 1750s-90s Methodism and Wesley and Whitfield's preaching WAS God's rhema word to be able to affect Britain  so that we never had the bloody revolution that was planned by the occult elite.
Methodism was never meant to be a sum total denomination in its own right. Neither was the Brethren Movement later.

TODAY...the WORD is GOD IN YOU AS YOU.

You can either do it in a Luciferian way in New Age, and experience the full force of his hideousness or you can experience revival in God  and experience the change in history in a less bloody way....BUT EXPERIENCE the birth of the KINGDOM in real time you will.  For the LORD of Heaven and Earth has decreed it and is birthing it, and NO MAN can stop the prayer of 2000 years.....

THY KINGDOM COME.

Briars 16 - Systems of Control. Monarch and Pedophilia

These are conversations on Facebook today together with related subject material on Youtubes.





The reason Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew's links are important are not because it sells more copies of the tabloids and National Enquirer, it's because it is a continuation of the same window that stretches from Sutcliffe (not as random and uninvolved as you think...buddy with Saville) Saville, DuTroux a royal procurer- the Belgian incident, through to names you know via Greg Hallett, a reporter co publishing work with a Spymaster General. Yes you can dig around for every detail, but that's not the point. The point is that Maxwell (probably suicided) and all these other names are involved somehow in pedophilia...not necessarily for pedophilia's sake....but it has been used since the BOGUS Luciferian Templars right down through their education systems in boarding schools as the "unmentionable sin" whereby every leader can be blackmailed to pass any relevant Law which helps further infrastructure for those wanting to profit by it.

Democracy as an ideal hasn't actually been practical for centuries, because of this one technique alone. So when John (Facebook friend of friend) sought to take his abuser (John was raped at 14 in social services) to court, ofcourse he didn't stand a chance. The judge was probably in the same ring, or quietly wheedled out to be in the SEAT that day. Yes, the British system can tosh tosh quietly down it's nose as "unruly John" seeing his chances of justice fade, pours lighter fuel all over the defendant, then gets immediately banged up for it.....but if you have had your whole soul screwed up by someone in authorities overpowering you and raping you....wouldn't you too think nothing of "unruly tendencies"? The very system that is there to protect you damages you worse than if you had spent your life on the streets.


Who would willingly send their kids to a boarding school knowing now that every single institution in the world seems to contain some fraternity practices, compromises,Luciferian belief systems, that all practice the smiling face of rationalism and politeness?



Don't think that I am like the Good Samaritan? I am the priest who passes by on the other side. How do you mean Chris?
I was still quite "charismatic" in my views in the early 90s, and I had a couple in my house. The lady was into David Icke. Because of Wogan, which was a BBC construction, I passed by on the other side. I was charismatic. I didn't want dealings with a man kneedeep in the New Age. I never even looked into the things he said. If I had I could have been among those pushing for Jimmy Saville's arrest, for the exposure of pedophilia, for cleaning up our democratic system.
In God terms, I think you will find that most KEY ISSUES of history are buried Cinderella like, or princess and the Frog like exactly where they are not meant to be. The FACT IS....whatever else David is into...if we'd actually listened to him instead of passing by on the other side...20 years on we may have had something more like politics today instead of the sleaze dustbin that keeps all younger people and those of an artistic bent right away from the BINARY system Polling Booths.
"We'll give you a choice of TWO so you think you are choosing, plus 6 or 7 jokers to make it seem like Democracy"


"When they deny you the right to tell your stories"says Zeph Daniel listening to a Monarch programming survivor,"they are actually participating in the abuse."
Scripture says "we expose the works of Darkness".
That doesn't mean talking endlessly about them. We simply do our part in targeting the heart of the evil that we know.
To simply acknowledge what is happening in our world is NOT to fall prey to fear. Do you know what it is instead?
It is to simply acknowledge what is happening in our world.
People who targeted Apartheid in 60s America.People who targeted Apartheid in 80s South Africa. They were all tarnished. Now everyone beams hypocritically and says what a right thing to do.
This is the same spirit ofcourse that has been around since Jesus. He said you celebrate the dead prophets and Moses. Well they spoke of Me. So if you were real you would be celebrating and recognising Me.
But scaredymongers never target where Satan is now....they just emerge from their barricades of fear about 20-30 years later and take the applause as if they were involved.
I have had dealings with a charismatic brother this week that to me pretty well exemplifies late Vineyard thinking. (John Wimber's Vineyard.) So instead of obeying scripture and targeting this world where it is now, he accuses those who do of spreading fear. At which point after 6 years we have lost patience with each other. He defriended me, and while he is in this late Vineyard softly softly fear of man and devil thing, I don't particularly want to associate. The reason I am so clear on all this is because of Gideon's 300. Keeping your eyes peeled.

From a Facebook Friend raised in Satanic Ritual Abuse

I have a story for you. This past year since I became aware of the mind control fr my childhood and been seeking The Lord daily Bc my life had shut down due to being out of work, divorced, disabled ... In other words not my great devotion to The Lord. In my desperation I sought Him daily as truly my only hope for sanity and going on in every area of life. I had some moments here and there of Him visiting me. One time he sat by me. Not seen, but felt. He told me to stop repenting for things I didn't do. He was very calm and serious. He said this is very important. You must think good things about yourself. (All I could think was how I wa bossy to my little sister) maybe He already asked if I remembered looking at the sky on m walk to and from school as a child Bc I was thinkin if myself as very young. He said I saw you looking at the sky. He said you were looking at me and I was looking back at you. I did remember. I had forgotten, but in that moment I remembered and marveled Bc I did that every day my entire childhood. I looked at the sky. Idk why I just did every day. I looked and looked. My heart was so touched. To know he knew and he cared and it mattered. I just weep thinking about it. It is so beautiful that He sees us. He sees our heart. He knows me more than I know myself. Even now I struggle I thinking one good thing truly about myself. It is an insurmountable task to me. Having had the wrong god somehow foisted on me through witchcraft then the mixture in the church to push works so much. Yes you are saved by grace but now you must work Bc look how much he paid... No every step is still thefirst full of grace. I just wanted to share that all the stories along the way are not scary and sad. How to know the great love and grace except we understand the depths from which we are saved? Well thanks you so much for listenig. Another thing on my heart to tell someone anyone is that people news to know that mkultra abuses/training a do lot make a person strong. It is so valued and respected how much torture someone can go through as if the abuses really make people strong or have super powers of certain skills like sharp shooting or beig determined to go on ... No!!! They only damage people and make them highly function in certain ways and them burn out and crash irrevocably. It is The Lord who saves and makes people able to endure till the end. I would have killed myself many times over if lot for the power of The one true God. NSA, FBI. And any others listenig in - hear me- only Jesus saves. Only He makes strong. Only He has true victory. All the other forced stuff is a sham and ends in defeat. True victory is of The Lord. Please, repent, turn from these wicked ways and do good with whatever is in your power to do. Seek Jesus and so things His way of peace, truth, love. All else is a waste of your time/life. Well I gotta go call the insurance man about my busted pipes. Bless you brother and your wife and the saints by you.

We live in Him the Consuming Fire - Annalize Mouton

…when Christ came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME;
with burnt offerings and sin offerings [all the offerings of the old Adam – praying, worship, surrendering of will, fasting, seeking of God, yes, that whole endless list of doings to get more holy and right with God]
YOU WERE NOT PLEASED
Then I [Christ] said, ‘HERE I AM—it is written about me in the scroll—
I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.’ ”
…Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He SETS ASIDE the first to ESTABLISH the second. AND BY THAT WILL , WE HAVE BEEN MADE HOLY THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST ONCE FOR ALL.

Do we get that? Really? WE HAVE BEEN MADE HOLY THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST ONCE FOR ALL!!!!!! Climb down your own little high horses peeps, and enter into HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS ANS HOLINESS. It's a DONE DEAL! Or are we too proud to admit defeat and accept what has been offered us: FREELY????

Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. [The religious treadmill. That bloodsucking leech and his daughters who are never satisfied: give, give! Not enough, not enough!] But when THIS PRIEST [Jesus Christ, our high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek] HAD OFFERED FOR ALL TIME ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS, he sat down at the right hand of God, and since that time HE WAITS for his enemies to be made his footstool. FOR BY ONE SACRIFICE HE HAS MADE PERFECT FOREVER THOSE WHO ARE BEING MADE HOLY.

By ONE sacrifice.

Has made perfect forever.

It is done. How long is forever? What part of this don't we get? Oh, you don't understand Annalize, we have a roll to play. Yeah? As I understand from Jesus, Paul, Peter, James and John, our role is one of resting with Him [in Oneness] in His fiery throne [from which comes lightnings and thunder] in the heavenlies where we have been placed not by ourselves, but by Him: receiving, entering in, taking/appropriating/making His inheritance our own – not just bits and pieces, but absolutely everything He offers. Dining at His table, eating the whole LAMB OF GOD, drinking the whole overflowing CUP of NEW WINE, saying thank You, thank You, thank You!

Our role is one of walking AS A NEW CREATION CREATED IN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HOLINESS OF THE TRUTH. Trees of Life, Trees of Righteousness, a Planting of the Lord! We have put on Christ, clothed with God Himself, we have His mind, we have His love shed abroad [that means: emptied out] in our hearts, we are living His very own God-kind of ZOE/AGAPE life.

And if some dark whispering voice of the accuser try to tell us to do more, to yield more, to seek His face more, to surrender our will more, we just once again dive into His Blood, His Will, His Righteousness, His Holiness, His perfect Life, He the Spotless, Perfect One in Whom we already stand perfect and we enter still more deeply into Him and eat and eat and eat more Lamb, and drink and drink and drink more New Wine – Resurrection, Glorified LIFE! Flesh of His flesh, bone of His bone, with our Father's DNA.
Our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.
Our Father, our Father!
You are my beloved Son in Whom I am well-pleased!
Our Father, our Father!

All because of that ONE PERFECT SACRIFICE!
Jesus, our Lord, o how we love You!
We your people, your body have come to do Your will o Lord!
We, the body You have prepared for Yourself!
We love to do Your will, O God!

Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have CONFIDENCE to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, HIS BODY, and since we have a GREAT PRIEST over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the FULL ASSURANCE that FAITH [His faith that is now mine] brings, having our hearts sprinkled to CLEANSE us from A GUILTY CONSCIENCE [of never yielding or being perfect enough] and having our bodies washed with pure water [all the bad DNA completely washed away]. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess [of walking in as as the manifestation of His Resurrection and fullness of Life, here and now], for HE who promised IS FAITHFUL.

Therefore we do not lack any spiritual gifts as we eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed in and through and as us. He will also keep us firm to the end, so that we will be blameless on this day, the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful, who has called us into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

We live in Him, the CONSUMING FIRE, burning ones forever! And by the breath of His mouth [our mouths] He will slay the evil one, the anti-Christ!

Clouds and thick darkness surround Him; Righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, a river of fire flows, comes out from before Him and burns up His adversaries round about. His lightnings light up the world; the earth see and tremble.… Smoke rises from his nostrils; consuming fire comes from his mouth, burning coals blaze out of it.

We are the burning coals consumed and made alive in and by Him! — with Susan Ryan, Marsha Newton-Zornes, John Castleman and 24 others.